A

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based

on

the

facts,

honesty,

the

man,

the

myth,

the

legend.

Christitutionalist

Joseph

M.

Leonard.

Welcome

to

Constitutionalist

Politics

Podcast

AKA

ctp.

I

am

your

host

Joseph

M.

Leonard

and

that's

L

E

N

A

R

D.

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let's

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with

the

show.

Hello

everyone.

This

is

a

listener

feedback,

but

again,

it's

going

to

be

kind

of

strange.

I've

had

emails

back

and

forth

with

my

friend

Mark

not

going

to

say

his

last

name

regarding

the

Pope

speculation

and

what

ifs

and

what

we

may

or

may

not

learn.

What's

out

there.

Both

fans

of

Francis

are

trying

to

claim

him

as

theirs

and

those

who

wanted

something

more

traditional

oriented

are

claiming

aspects

of

Leo

the

14th

background

for

themselves.

Only

time

will

tell.

I

invited

Mark

on

and

he

respectfully

declined,

but

he

he

gave

permission

to

discuss

what

he

was

saying

in

response.

First

and

foremost,

I

told

you

I

had

an

earache.

Still

do

now

while

I'm

recording

this.

But

what

I

didn't

say

is

I

also

had

a

massive

migraine

and

you

know,

things

don't

always

go

well

when

I

have

a

migraine.

And

indeed

also

when

you

try

to

rush

things,

things

often

don't

go

quite

as

well.

And

I

probably

should

have

made

a

few

more

notes

than

I

did

to

do

that

episode,

the

season

two

episode

from

May

Special

two

that

was

done

on

I'm

looking

down

at

the

calendar

May

9th.

I

could

have

and

probably

should

have

done

something

Thursday

night,

May

8th,

but

I

said

basically

the

same

things.

And

like

I

said,

since

I

didn't

do

it

Thursday

night,

I

was

a

little

rushed

Friday

morning

the

9th,

putting

it

together

and

getting

it

out.

So

yes,

I

made

some

mistakes.

One

mark

tells

me

I

said

Leo

the

15th

a

couple

times

rather

than

Leo

the

14th.

So

I

apologize

if

I've

got

the

numeration

wrong

in

there

a

few

times.

And

he

of

course

each

church,

each

denomination

may

be

somewhat

different.

He

corrected

me

on

the

Catholic

Church

current

doctrine

regarding

divorcees.

Since

I

still

am

married

in

the

eyes

of

the

church,

I

am

eligible

for

communion.

Those

who

would

not

be

would

be

divorcees

who

remarry

and

don't

get

an

annulment.

In

the

eyes

of

the

church,

they

would

still

be

married

to

their

first

spouse.

So

thank

you

Mark

for

clearing

that

up.

I

make

no

bones

about

it.

I

try

to

make

this

show

non

denominational

and

as

I've

told

you

before,

I

attend

other

churches

also.

So

I'm

not

sure

what

the

proper

doctrine

is

now

regarding

like

Lutheran

or

Presbyterian

or

Baptist

or

some

many

non

denominational

churches

that

I

have

been

to

happy

to

attend.

Like

I

say

I

like

to

get

together

with

the

denominations

all

the

sex

scts

spell

it

for

the

transcript

and

try

to

assure

that

we're

dealing

in

things

that

we

can

agree

upon

because

as

I

say

if

we

as

Christians

are

arguing

like

before

in

Ireland

Catholic

vs

Protestant

literal

outright

war

and

terrorism,

Satan

wins.

Excuse

me,

sorry

about

that,

had

to

sneeze.

Jesus

doesn't

win.

Satan

wins

when

we're

at

each

other

rather

than

focusing

on

Jesus

and

the

Bible

and

the

Bible

in

full

context.

So

at

any

rate

I

though

that

those

corrections

that

I

may

have

made

mistakes

on

beyond

that

what

was

Mark's

one

thing

I

said

As

I

say

all

the

time

I

can

slash

do

make

mistakes

made

several

in

that

episode

if

you've

seen

the

behind

the

scenes

video

one

you

see

I

literally

put

up

on

the

screen

oops

mistake.

I

was

quoting

attempting

to

quote

Matthew

5:17

and

I

think

I

said

Matthew

7

there.

Again

I

didn't.

I

should

have

made

the

note

of

that

mistake

to

correct

it

here.

But

if

you

go

back

you'll

see

the

mistake

again.

If

you

watch

the

video

a

behind

the

scenes

video

version

of

season

2e

may

special

2

is

better

than

the

audio

only

version

although

of

course

20

plus

platforms

for

that

14

or

15

matters

yes

but

key

point

on

such

I

do

not

give

up

bleep

little

too

loose

in

my

language

with

my

friend

there

what

peeps

speculation

why

they

think

he

chose

Leo

what

matters

and

I

we

need

here

direct

from

him

why

he

thought

that

name

was

the

name

to

go

with

what

we

might

think

it

implies

about

using

the

Leo

name.

Irrelevant.

Why

does

he

think

that

was

the

name

to

use

right?

The

more

I

learn

the

more

I

see

why

he

was

picked

as

a

compromise

left

on

some

things

like

Francis

and

more

traditional

whoops.

I

dropped

my

sheet

of

paper

on

a

few

things

compromise

and

part

appeasement

2/

for

those

who

will

get

hung

up

on

the

from

Chicago

thing

even

though

most

of

his

life

was

not

spent

there

and

indeed

picked

up

quite

a

bit

of

cultural

Marxism

as

from

what

I

can

see

so

far.

Again

speculation.

Don't

know

we're

early

on

here,

only

time

will

tell.

Marxism

while

in

Peru

said

in

episode

had

the

ear

ache

didn't

say

I

had

massive

migraine

which

was

clearly

affecting

me

more

than

I

thought

it

was

but

being

pushed

due

to

timing

of

things

since

I

didn't

do

it

Thursday

night

if

I

didn't

do

it

Friday.

I

had

set

three

Saturday

shows

already

scheduled.

Saturday

the

10th,

the

11th,

the

10th,

17th

and

24th

May

were

already

planned

out,

ready

to

go.

So

if

I

were

to

make

that

a

Saturday

monologue

episode

rather

than

a

special,

I

would

have

had

to

rework

the

whole

month

of

May

and

part

laziness,

part

kind

of

a

pain

to

do

so,

I

decided

to

make

it

a

special,

which

kind

of

put

me

behind

the

eight

ball

and

a

little

rushed

and

the

quality

showed.

The

quality

suffered

a

bit

because

of

that.

If

I

would

have

not

done

something

as

a

special

right

away

that

Friday

the

9th,

I

would

have

had

to

probably

just

stayed

silent

on

it.

And

these

things

only

happen

whether

you're

Catholic

or

not.

Again,

Christian,

non

denominational

show

the

Pope,

like

a

president,

does,

set

some

cultural

norms

or

affects

the

culture,

affects

a

whole

lot

of

things.

There's

a

ripple

effect.

So

whether

you

recognize

the

Pope

as

a

non

Catholic

or

not

is

kind

of

that

you're

relevant

here.

It's

an

important

piece

of

news

that

I

kind

of

couldn't

pass

on

as

a

Christian

show.

Just

like

the

Saturday,

May

10

Season

2

Episode

99

the

Constitution

and

the

New

Testament

is

not

a

Suicide

pact.

What

does

that

mean?

Biblical

context

as

well

as

in

the

Buzzsprout

transcript

I

mentioned

that

I

have

Season

1,

Episode

49

from

2024

Mother's

Day

retrospective

in

there.

So

that

was

kind

of

hard

and

in

place

and

couldn't

be

moved.

So

if

I

would

have

waited,

I

would

have

had

to

have

waited

another

week,

two

or

three,

and

I

couldn't

really

do

that.

So

what

specifically

did

Mark

say?

Let

me

read

that.

Other

than

the

one

email

with

the

I

screwed

up

the

enumeration

and

I

didn't

get

Catholic

doctrine

as

it

currently

exists.

Right.

I

might

have

been

thinking

old

doctrine,

Benedict

or

Francis,

either

one

of

them

or

the

Pope

before

that

could

have

changed

it

from

what

I

knew

it.

As

Mark

said,

in

general,

you're

right,

the

speculation

and

noise

about

the

name

isn't

too

important

right

now,

but

we

can

look

at

his

background.

It

looks

like

he

was

a

second

tier

compromised

candidate.

Agreed.

Although

he

is

an

Augustinian

missionary

and

worked

in

Peru.

Again,

the

Peru

thing

I

think

cuts

both

ways.

His

religious

formation

was

in

the

usa,

ordained

a

priest

in

Rome

and

spent

a

few

years

before

joining

the

mission

in

Peru.

Francis

was

formed

by

Jesuit

liberation

theologians

in

Argentina.

I

agree

that's

the

belief

of

many.

That's

why

I

coined

him

the

Nincompope.

More

interested

in

worldly

communism

cultural

Marxism

than

Biblical

community

of

Free

Will

we

are

to

want

to

be

our

brother's

keeper,

not

do

so

by

force,

by

gunpoint,

by

theft

and

redistribution,

which

is

the

worst

of

the

worst.

Mark

went

on

to

say,

Leo

the

14th.

Make

sure

I

get

the

number

right.

Probably

was

exposed

to

the

errors

of

Marxism

during

his

work

in

Peru.

I'm

hopeful

that

could

be

the

case.

He

wasn't

sucked

into

it

or

suckered

by

it

and

rejects

it

as

some

are

speculating.

Again,

speculations.

What

ifs?

We

don't

know.

We

won't

know

for

a

while,

Mark

goes

on

to

say.

But

his

formation

was

completely

different

from

Francis.

Also

unlike

Francis,

he

is

a

canon

lawyer.

Canon

lawyers

are

very

methodical

and

careful

about

their

language

and

how

their

decisions

are

made

according

to

theology

and

precedent.

They

communicate

clearly

and

are

very

ordered

and

disciplined.

This

was

not

Francis's

background

at

all.

I

think

the

cardinals

were

aware

that

we

did

not

need

another

divisive

figure

like

Francis.

I

am

cautiously

cautious

but

moderately

hopeful.

He's

going,

I

think

he

meant

to

say

cautiously

optimistic

and

moderately

hopeful.

He's

going

to

try

to

clean

up

a

little

bit

after

Francis's

mess.

Time

will

tell

for

sure.

Exactly

my

point.

And

thank

you

Mark

for

reaching

out

to

me

and

clarifying

errors

I

made

and

for

presenting

your

opinion.

I

always

want

listener

feedback.

Now

if

you

listen

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episode

and

want

to

come

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the

show,

record

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have

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listener

feedback

interchange

and

engagement

like

I

did

with

Peter

Seraphin

one

time

and

I

did

Timo

one

time.

Also

other

two

times.

I

believe

of

the

four

or

five

listener

feedbacks

were

like

this

where

I

was

reading

feedback

from

others.

So

thank

you

all

for

tuning

into

this

listener

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again.

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