ChristiTutionalist Politics (S1E22) "Grey Areas"

November 18, 2023

ChristiTutionalist Politics (S1E22) "Grey Areas"

ChristiTutionalist (TM) Politics

The episode is a conversation between host Joseph M. Leonard and guest Rick Walker, a Canadian journalist. They discuss the concept of 'gray areas' in various contexts, such as language, law, politics, and social issues. Leonard raises examples like the spelling variation of the word 'gray/grey,' the law recognizing mitigating circumstances, and Bill Clinton's infamous quote about the definition of 'is.'

They also touch on issues like the Canadian government's new legislation regarding social media companies and news content, which has led to Facebook essentially banning news in Canada. Leonard brings up examples like rapper Tom McDonald's controversial song 'Hitting a Woman' and the US Women's Soccer team losing to a high school boys' team to explore the gray areas in gender and sports.

Throughout the discussion, Walker provides his perspective as a Canadian journalist, acknowledging the nuances and different viewpoints on various issues. The conversation covers a wide range of topics, from language and law to politics, social issues, and media censorship, all through the lens of exploring the complexities and gray areas within them.

Podcast Title

ChristiTutionalist (TM) Politics

Host

Joseph M. Lenard

Publish Date

November 18, 2023

Episode Notes

Send us a textChristiTutionalist Politics (S1E22) "Grey Areas"Topic TheLibertyBeacon.com "Whole lotta Grey Areas" piece! We all wish things could be and were Black/White, Right/Wrong, Good/Evil, but reality is there are a whole lotta Grey area that do not so conveniently fit into the "definitive" this or that buckets. We shall examine that. Things do not always conveniently allow for a drive-by, pot-shot, clear and clean, limited Twitter attention span and space limitations!Plus discussi...
  1. The concept of 'gray areas' in various aspects of life, such as language, law, politics, and social issues.

  2. The complexity of addressing gray areas and the different perspectives and nuances that contribute to them.

  3. Examples of gray areas in language (e.g., spelling variations), law (e.g., mitigating circumstances), and social issues (e.g., gender and sports).

  4. The unique perspective of the Canadian guest, Rick Walker, on issues like Canadian legislation and media censorship.

  5. The host's viewpoints on controversial topics like Bill Clinton's 'definition of is' quote and transgender athletes in women's sports, which he sees as clear-cut cases without gray areas.

  6. The role of personal agendas, motivations, and biases in shaping perspectives on gray areas.

  7. The potential for governments and authorities to exploit gray areas for control and censorship.

  8. The importance of examining the 'why' and motivations behind different perspectives and narratives.

  1. "Everything in life is a gray area. All perspectives are different. Everybody looks at the world in a slightly different way."  - Rick Walker

    - This quote captures the central theme of the episode, which is exploring the nuances and different perspectives that create 'gray areas' in various aspects of life.

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  2. "Canada has always had strange regulations like that. That would probably seem strange to you in the United States. And it's because we traditionally with, you know, regular legacy media or mediums like radio, tv, newspapers. Canada being a huge country right on the border with, you know, right up against the United States, you have very powerful media."  - Rick Walker

    - This quote provides insight into the unique perspective of Walker as a Canadian journalist, explaining the rationale behind certain Canadian regulations that may seem unusual from an American viewpoint.

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  3. "The word gray is a gray area in and of itself. Of language."  - Joseph M. Leonard

    - This quote exemplifies one of the examples Leonard uses to illustrate the concept of 'gray areas,' in this case, the ambiguity surrounding the spelling of the word 'gray/grey.'

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  4. "No, Claiming to be a woman. No. Okay. So with that in my shows, I try not to go much more than 40 minutes."  - Joseph M. Leonard

    - This quote highlights Leonard's stance on the controversial issue of transgender athletes in women's sports, which he views as a clear-cut case without gray areas.

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  5. "I dare say it's not a bug, it's a feature. These fascists want that control."  - Joseph M. Leonard

    - This quote reflects Leonard's perspective on the Canadian government's legislation regarding social media and news content, suggesting that it is a deliberate attempt at control and censorship rather than an unintended consequence.

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Chapter 1: Defining Gray Areas

Joseph M. Leonard introduces the concept of gray areas, where things are not simply black and white or good and evil, and how those who are evil often try to exploit the ambiguity of gray areas for their own gain. Rick Walker agrees and elaborates on how perspectives and worldviews lead to different interpretations of the same situation or event.

  • Things are often not simply black and white or good and evil, and there are many gray areas that require careful examination.
  • Different perspectives and worldviews lead to different interpretations of the same situation or event, contributing to the existence of gray areas.

Key Quotes

  1. "We need be smart enough to dig into the why, the motivations." by Joseph M. Leonard

    - This quote highlights the importance of understanding the motivations behind actions or statements in order to discern whether they are genuine or deceptive.

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  2. "Everything in life is a gray area. All perspectives are different. Everybody looks at the world in a slightly different way." by Rick Walker

    - This quote emphasizes the idea that different perspectives lead to different interpretations of reality, contributing to the existence of gray areas.

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Chapter 2: Gray Areas in Law and Politics

Joseph M. Leonard and Rick Walker discuss how gray areas exist in the law, where mitigating circumstances are considered, and in politics, where motivations and agendas can lead to the exploitation of ambiguity. They use examples such as theft, perjury, and the actions of politicians to illustrate their points.

  • The law recognizes mitigating circumstances and varying degrees of offenses, creating gray areas that require careful consideration.
  • Political agendas and motivations can lead to attempts to exploit the ambiguity of gray areas for personal gain or to excuse unethical behavior.

Key Quotes

  1. "No, you perjured yourself before Congress, the left, because of their agenda. Want to excuse the lying because it was about sex and he's trying to play well, take the kids out of the room." by Joseph M. Leonard

    - This quote highlights how political agendas can lead to the exploitation of gray areas, in this case, attempting to excuse perjury by redefining the act.

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  2. "Theft is theft." by Rick Walker

    - This quote succinctly expresses the idea that, despite potential mitigating circumstances, some actions, such as theft, are unambiguous violations of the law.

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Chapter 3: Gender and Physical Differences

Joseph M. Leonard and Rick Walker discuss the gray areas surrounding gender and physical differences, particularly in the context of sports. They explore how societal norms and expectations can create double standards and how genuine physical differences between genders should be taken into account.

  • Societal norms and expectations can create double standards and gray areas when it comes to gender and physical differences, particularly in the context of sports and violence.
  • While genuine physical differences between genders should be acknowledged, individual circumstances, such as training and physical development, also play a role in determining capabilities.

Key Quotes

  1. "Tom has a song. Maybe you could look it up when we're done here. Called Hitting a Woman. And that's why I brought that up. And one of the lines is you think you're a bad bitch, right? But you know how that would play out in a fight." by Joseph M. Leonard

    - This quote introduces the discussion about the gray area surrounding physical differences between genders and societal norms regarding violence.

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  2. "I'm glad you made that caveat about your training level versus the female hockey because I have a younger sister. She wanted to play hockey. I mean, you know, she wanted to be on the team with me." by Joseph M. Leonard

    - This quote acknowledges the importance of considering factors like training and physical development when discussing gender differences in sports.

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Chapter 4: Canadian Censorship and Media Regulations

Rick Walker provides insights into the Canadian government's efforts to regulate and censor online content, including social media platforms and independent news outlets. He discusses the unintended consequences of these regulations, which have led to the blocking of both mainstream and independent news sources in Canada.

  • The Canadian government's efforts to regulate online content and favor mainstream media outlets have resulted in unintended consequences, such as the complete blocking of news content on social media platforms in Canada.
  • Independent news sources like Maverick News are caught in the crossfire, being blocked for Canadian audiences while remaining accessible to international audiences.

Key Quotes

  1. "The other thing that they're trying to do is make social media companies pay the mainstream legacy media fees for the news content that they publish on the social media platforms. Facebook has told the government that they are not going to participate in that. They will. They've refused to pay. So they have said, we're just not going to carry any more news content in Canada. We're just not going to carry it." by Rick Walker

    - This quote explains the Canadian government's attempt to force social media companies to pay fees to mainstream media outlets and Facebook's response, which has led to a complete ban on news content in Canada.

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  2. "So now I'm in this very unusual situation where we had this Facebook maverick news Facebook page with a pretty sizable list of subscribers. Nobody in Canada can see it and yet you in the USA can see that very same page. It is not blocked on your side." by Rick Walker

    - This quote illustrates the unintended consequence of the Canadian government's regulations, where independent news sources like Maverick News are blocked for Canadian audiences but accessible to international audiences.

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Joseph M. Leonard

A

show

based

on

the

facts,

honesty,

the

man,

the

myth,

the

legend.

Rick Walker

Christitutionalist

Joseph

M.

Leonard.

Joseph M. Leonard

Welcome

to

constitutionalist

politics

podcast

aka

CTP

in

association

with

savage

unfiltered

podcast

the

libertybeacon.com

and

I

am

your

host

Joseph

M.

Leonard

and

that's

L,

E

N

A

R

D

C

T

P

is

your.

No,

must

no

fuss,

just

me

you

type

podcast.

As

Graham

Norton

would

say.

Let's

get

on

with

the

show.

Welcome

to

Constitutionalist

Politics

Season

1,

Episode

22.

If

you're

watching

on

the

YouTuber

Rumble

video

channel,

you'll

see

I

have

a

guest.

It

is

Rick

Walker

and

we'll

get

to

him

in

a

second

and

why

he's

here

today

is

one

of

those

odd

episodes.

Normally

if

I

have

a

guest

record

a

segment

they

would

be

segment

two

following

a

lead

in.

Well

today

we're

just

going

raw

with

Rick

the

whole

episode.

So

this

is

going

to

be

a

little

different.

And

the

topic

of

the

libertybeacon.com

piece

gray

area

or

gray

areas

part

one.

There

will

be

a

part

two.

Without

further

ado,

let

me

just

introduce

Rick

Walker

and

have

him

explain

who

he

is.

Oh,

a

Canuck.

Back

to

back

Canucks

it's

going

to

be.

I

thought

I'd

get

some

Canadian

perspective

in

the

show.

So

please

welcome

Rick

Walker.

Tell

us

a

little

bit

about

yourself

and

your

show.

Rick Walker

Well,

thank

you

for

having

me

on

your

program

tonight,

Joseph.

It's

an

honor.

Yeah,

I'm

Canuck,

I'm

Canadian.

I

used

to

work

for

CTV

News

in

Canada

for

about

25

years.

Left

the

mainstream

media

quite

a

long

time

ago.

About

10

years

ago,

do

some

automotive

journalism.

But

these

days

my

main

focus

is

Maverick

news

which

is

our

online

free

speech,

free

media

oriented

news

platform.

A

lot

of

international

news,

U.S.

news

and

Canadian

news

of

course

because

I'm

right

here

in

Canada

and

Canadian

news

as

always

in

one

way

or

another

connected

directly

back

to

the

US

of

A.

Joseph M. Leonard

Which

is

why

I

wanted

to

have

you

free

speech

as

far

as

YouTube

Canada

will

let

you

be

free

speech

which

is

even

more

strict

and

censored

than

YouTube

USA

that

is

true.

Touchy

in

both

places.

Let

me

get

your

reaction

to

this.

Got

my

notes

here

for

those

on

video

could

see

it.

If

you're

listening

on

audio

only,

maybe

you

can

hear

the

paper

wrestling.

I'm

gonna.

I

don't

do

scripted

but

I

do

notes

so

I

could

try

to

get

things

in.

I

want

to

read

this

specifically

regarding

gray

area

or

gray

areas

and

we

will

do

a

few

examples

but

things

are

never

usually

pure

black

and

white.

Right

and

wrong

and

good

and

evil.

And

those

who,

of

course,

are

evil

always

want

to

play

the

gray

area

to

pretend

they're

not

evil.

Right.

And

whether

it

be

this

or

anything

else,

there

are

often

various

different

camps

of

people

with

varying

own

personal

agendas

wanting

to

muddy

the

waters

for

their

own

gain.

We

need

be

smart

enough

to

dig

into

the

why,

the

motivations.

Someone

is

saying

what

as

part

of

the

determinations

of

whether

genuine

or

even

factual

or

spin

and

false

narratives

or

lies.

Your.

Your

initial

reaction

to

that?

Rick Walker

Yes.

Joseph M. Leonard

Okay.

Can

you

elaborate

a

little?

Yeah.

Rick Walker

So

you

want

my

reaction

to

what?

That

there

are

gray

areas

and

sometimes

people

who

are

evil

exploit

the

ambiguity

that

comes

from

sort

of

dipping

into

the

gray

area

of

things.

Yes,

they

do

that.

Joseph M. Leonard

Yeah,

most

definitely.

Well,

I'm

going

to

start

with

an

oddball

example.

Rick Walker

Okay.

Joseph M. Leonard

All

right.

The

word

gray

is

a

gray

area

in

itself.

If

you're

using

Oxford

English

or

American

English,

it

could

be

spelled

G,

R

A

Y

or

G

R

E

Y.

Right.

And

spell

checker.

Like,

I'm

holding

a

Microsoft

document

here,

and

as

I

was

doing

my

article,

I

have

my

rough

notes.

It's

not

completely

done

yet.

This

recording

may

influence

what

lands

up

in

the

final

draft,

the

spell

checkers

and

why.

I

say

in

my

book,

how

to

Write

a

Book

and

Get

It

Published.

Hints,

tips

and

techniques.

You

need

a

professional

editor

because

the

spelling

grammar

checkers,

no

matter

how

sophisticated,

still

aren't

sophisticated

enough

to

say,

like

I

take

the

Marion

Webster

write

up

on

the

difference.

Gray,

gray,

A,

E.

And

therefore,

in

the

document,

it's

spelled

both

ways.

And

the

AI

isn't

even

smart

enough

to

say

there's

a

dichotomy

here.

There's

a

discrepancy.

Do

you

really

mean

to

spell

it

two

different

ways?

The

word

gray

is

a

gray

area

in

and

of

itself.

Of

language.

Rick Walker

Yes.

I'm

not

exactly

sure

where

we're

going

with

this,

Joseph.

Are

you

trying

to,

like,

lead

us

into

some

broader

discussion

in

politics?

Is

that

sort

of

the

idea?

Joseph M. Leonard

Yeah,

that's

definitely

where

we're

going

to

go.

That's

just

kind

of

my

initial

broad

overall

definition

of

a

gray

area

can

be.

Indeed.

Rick Walker

Sure.

Because

if

you

want

to

talk

about

gray

areas,

especially

as

it

relates.

Well,

it

doesn't

really

matter

what

it

relates

to.

If

you're

talking

about

politics.

Everything

in

life

is

a

gray

area.

All

perspectives

are

different.

Everybody

looks

at

the

world

in

a

slightly

different

way.

That's

why

I,

as

a

conservative,

you

know,

I

believe

in

individual

rights

and

freedoms.

I

believe

that

every

individual

is

unique.

I

don't

like

identity

politics,

because

it

sort

of

slots

people

into

specific

categories.

Categories,

groups,

people

together.

And

while

people

on

the

woke

left

always

say

diversity

is

our

strength,

in

reality,

there's

not

that

much

diversity

within

identity

politics.

True

diversity

comes

from

individuality.

That's

where

you

find

true

diversity.

Because

now

you're

talking

about

every

single

individual

being

a

unique

person.

And

we

can

be

looking

at

exactly

the

same

thing.

For

instance,

I

could

hold

up

this

cup

and

I

see

it

on

this

side

of

the

screen.

But

as

you're

looking

at

it,

you're

probably

seeing

it

on

the

opposite

side

of

the

screen.

If

you're

standing

just

a

little

bit

to

the

left

of

something,

you're

seeing

it

from

a

slightly

different

angle.

And

so

that's

partly

why

people

look

at

a

political

issue

or

even

a

political

event.

And

I

as

a

reporter

can

go

to

a

political

event

and

I

my

report

be

entirely

different

than

a

report

that's

coming

from

someone

else

with

a,

with

a

different

political

perspective.

Another

reporter

who's

doing

a

story

on

exactly

the

same

speech

from

exactly

the

same

politician

at

exactly

the

same

time.

But

they

stand

a

little

to

my

left

and

their

world

experience,

their

worldview

is

just,

you

know,

is

different

than

mine.

So

they

perceive

the

language,

they

perceive

everything

in

a.

In

a

different

way

when

they

write

their

article,

they

express

themselves

differently,

they

see

it

differently.

Everything

in

life,

it

doesn't

matter

what

it

is

you

look

at,

you're

seeing

it

from

your

perspective,

which

is

entirely

unique,

which

is

why

everything

in

life

is

actually

a

gray

area.

You

can

really

get

down

into

some

very

deep

conversations

about

science

and

philosophy

as

it

relates

to

this

very

issue,

and

even

delve

into

the

areas

of

what

is

reality?

Because

everything

revolves

around

that,

like

what

is

reality?

And

that

all

stems

from

different

perspectives

on

everything

and

why.

Joseph M. Leonard

I

opened

with.

You

need

to

dig

into

the

why

and

motivations.

There

can

still

be

different

perspectives

from

an

honest,

internal,

different

perspective,

as

opposed

to

an

absolute

by

choice,

leftist

bent,

motivation,

agenda.

So

yeah,

you're

definitely

in

the

spirit

here.

And

the

next

thing

I

have

on

my

note

is

the

law.

We

recognize

mitigating

circumstances

of

gray

areas

like

Les

Mis.

Right.

Most

people

know

either

the

book

or

the

play

or

the

musical

or

whatever.

We

recognize

negligent

homicide

is

different

than

premeditated

murder

and

stealing

a

loaf

of

bread.

To

quote

Les

Mis,

you

don't

punish

the

same

as

a

murderer.

There's

varying

degrees

and

aspects

that's

within

the

law.

Like

here

in

the

US

I

have

no

doubt

you've

heard

aoc.

She's

just

a

loon.

And

every.

And

she's

out

talking

about

people

stealing

Gucci

bags,

Nike

shoes,

as

a

Les

Mis

example.

No,

they're

not

stealing

bread.

Look

at

some

of

these

people.

They're

obese,

running

around.

They're

not

starving,

they're

not

stealing

bread.

You

cannot

excuse

them

with

that

Les

Mis

example.

Gray

area

in

the

law.

That

again,

for

her

motivation

is

a

leftist

agenda.

Your

thoughts

on

that?

Rick Walker

Yes,

I.

Joseph M. Leonard

He's

doing

this

on

purpose

because

I

just.

Rick Walker

You,

you,

I.

That's

true,

but

you,

you.

I

mean,

you're

expressing

yourself

very

clearly.

And,

and

you're

very

articulate.

I

understand

your

point.

You

fleshed

it

out

very

well.

This

is

obviously

an

issue

that's

facing

especially

I

think,

the

United

States

right

now,

the

woke

left,

finding

excuses

for

people

committing

crimes

under

the

idea

that

they've

been

so

victimized

over

generations

that

criminal

activity

is

actually

justified.

And

no,

I

don't

agree

with

that

at

all.

Theft

is.

Theft

is

theft.

Joseph M. Leonard

So

again,

except

for,

again,

mitigating

circumstances.

Yes,

stealing

a

loaf

of

bread

because

you

have

a

starving

kid

is

entirely

different

than

me

slobs

out

there

stealing

Gucci

and

Nike.

Rick Walker

Well,

sure,

yes.

You

know,

and

that's

why

we

have

codified

law

and

legal

precedent.

Joseph M. Leonard

Yeah.

Rick Walker

In

place

so

the

judges

know

how

to

deal

with

these

cases

on

a

case

by

case

basis.

And

there

are

precedents

set

through

various

court

decisions.

Joseph M. Leonard

Next

thought

here

is

Bill

Clinton.

And

I'm

sure

you

remember

right.

Depends

on

what

the

definition

of

is

is.

No,

you

perjured

yourself

before

Congress,

the

left,

because

of

their

agenda.

Want

to

excuse

the

lying

because

it

was

about

sex

and

he's

trying

to

play

well,

take

the

kids

out

of

the

room.

A

blowjob

really

isn't

sex.

So

I

really

wasn't

lying.

I

really

didn't

perjure

myself.

It

depends

on

what

the

definition

of

is

is.

And

that's

bull.

If

you

think

that

the

sex

with

an

intern

is

no

big

deal,

own

up

to

it.

Yes,

I

had

sex

with

an

intern

in

the

Oval

Office.

It

may

not

have

been

proper,

but

it

is

what

it

is.

It

was

just

sexual.

That

has

nothing

to

do

with

my

ability

to

perform

as

president

or

not.

Rick Walker

Yes,

but

you

know,

he

didn't

inhale.

Joseph M. Leonard

Either,

so

there,

Rick,

is

a

great,

perfect

response.

Now,

have

you

heard

of

Jamal

Bowman?

He's

the

guy

that

pulled

the

fire

alarm.

Yes,

the

other

day.

Okay,

you

know

where

I'm

going.

Rick Walker

Yeah.

Joseph M. Leonard

He

literally

interrupted

a

vote

of

Congress.

Tried

to.

An

insurrection,

if

you

will.

Right.

Rick Walker

Yeah.

Joseph M. Leonard

Literally,

the

letter

of

the

law.

Tried

to

interfere

with

the

congressional

business

far

more

than

anyone

on

January

6

did

so.

He

needs

to

be

censured,

expelled,

a

resolution

drafted,

sent

to

Merrick

Garland,

who

will

of

course

ignore

it,

demanding

he

be

Prosecuted.

Like

these

January

6th

folk.

If

this

happened

in

your

parliament,

you'd

be

demanding

prosecution,

correct?

Rick Walker

Depends

on

if

the

person

pulling

the

fire

alarm

is

a

Nazi

or

not.

Joseph M. Leonard

I

don't

want

to

go

down

that

road.

Yeah,

let's

not

go

there.

Rick Walker

Maybe

he

thought

he

was

in

a

movie

theater

and

he

felt

compelled

to

shout

fire.

Joseph M. Leonard

Oh,

I'm

glad

you

said

that,

because

I

actually

have

that

further

down

my

notes.

Let

me

finish

with

the

insurrection

per

se.

Rick Walker

Sure.

Joseph M. Leonard

Because,

like

Wisconsin,

literally,

leftists

occupied

the

Wisconsin

legislature

several

years

ago

when

Scott

Walker

was

governor,

to

interrupt

proceedings

and

insurrection,

a

literal

occupation

for

a

week

plus

time,

not

a

few

hours,

wandering

around

and

then

left.

Nothing

done

about

that.

Of

course,

here

in

Michigan,

Governor

Witless,

or

Whitler,

as

I

call

her,

was

a

member

of

the

Michigan

House

at

the

time

the

Capitol

went

on

lockdown

because

leftists

trying

to

do

the

same

thing

here.

And

she

literally

broke

the

lockdown,

opened

her

office

window

to

let

insurrectionists

in,

and

yet

nothing

happens.

But

regarding

the

fire.

Yeah,

on

the

libertybeacon.com

I've

got

a

piece

about

yelling

fire

in

a

crowded

theater,

because

to

me,

that's

a

farce.

And

you

had

on

your

show

when

I

was

on

the

other

day,

who

I

contend

is

a

leftist.

Rush

Limbaugh

talked

about

this

all

the

time.

Media

Matters

tells

leftists

to

masquerade

as

Republicans,

which

is

why

the

guy

didn't

give

his

name

and

wanted

to

hide

his

face.

He

was

pretending

to

be

a

Republican.

He

agreed

with

leftist

dictates

at

every

turn.

And

he

tried

to

use

the

yell

fire

in

a

crowded

theater.

That

is

not

speech.

That

is

not

opinion.

That

is

fraud

in

the

inducement

and

incitement.

If

there

is

not

fire,

that's

not

speech.

I

mean,

at

every

turn

he

showed

he

was

not

a

small

government

Republican.

And

the

other

thing

that

I

don't.

Rick Walker

Remember

him

trying

to

present

himself

that

way.

Joseph M. Leonard

Oh,

he

said

it

several

times.

Rick Walker

Oh,

well,

that's

right,

he

did.

He

said

he

was

a

Republican.

Joseph M. Leonard

And

the

other

thing

that

really

irked

me,

do

you

remember

how

many

times

he

said,

I'm

highly

educated

and

so

are

all

my

friends,

unlike

me

and

you,

the

rub,

you

know,

the

rednecks,

the

unwashed.

Unknown

Stay

with

us.

We'll

be

right

back.

Joseph M. Leonard

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tee.

Yeah,

I

think

I

just

invented

that

word.

Rick Walker

The

toothless

Hayseed

hicks

from

the

back

40th.

Joseph M. Leonard

But

what

he

really

is

a

well

educated,

indoctrinated,

trained

Pavlovian

dog.

And

anytime

the

bell

rings,

he

bites.

Rick Walker

Well,

I

mean

people

watching

this

program

didn't

get

a

chance

to

see

that

show.

I

suppose

you

could

go

on

onto

my

channel

and

and

and

and

see

that

to

get

some

context,

but

I'm

afraid

to

comment

too

much

because

I

wouldn't

want

to

confuse

people

or

talk

about

something

that

they

don't

have

a

frame

of

reference

on

with

without

having

previously

seen

what

it

is

we're

talking

about.

Joseph M. Leonard

But

yeah,

I

will

make

sure

I

link

to

that

show

either

on

my

live

YouTube

channel.

It's

still

on

my

YouTube

channel

under

the

Live

tab

since

I

streamed

it

live

while

we

were

on

together.

As

long

as

YouTube

leaves

it

because

of

all

those

idiosyncrasies

that

they

don't

like

us

to

talk

about.

They

may

pull

it,

but

I

know

you

put

up

an

edited

version.

I'll

go

grab

the

link

to

the

edited

version.

So.

Rick Walker

Well,

it's

the

unedited

version

is

up

on

Rumble,

so

if

anybody

wants

to

see

the

whole

thing.

Yeah,

it's

on

there

and

on

Facebook

too.

Facebook

doesn't

bother

me

too

much

with

stuff

like

that.

At

least

they

haven't

so

far.

Except

that

they

took

down

our

whole

news

page

in

Canada

because

of

censorship

laws

in

Canada.

So

you

can't

see

our

news

page

in

Canada

anymore.

You

can

see

it

in

the

usa,

but

I

can't

even

watch

my

own

content

because

my

page

is

blocked

to

me

in

Canada.

But

when

I

stream

to

it,

people

in

other

countries

around

the

world

can

see

it.

How

insane

is

that?

Joseph M. Leonard

Well,

tell

us

about.

You

know,

this

is

off

the

topic

now,

but

let's

go

there.

You

don't

have

the

first

Amendment

as

it

exists

here

in

our

Constitution.

And

you

guys

just

passed

a

law.

I

know

Ms.

Liz

on

another

show

I

discussed

with

her

supposedly

about

protecting

newsfeed

content

and

the

providers

so

that

you

have

to

pay

for

their

content.

But

what

it

really

is

is

backdoor

censorship

and

preventing

things

from

getting

to

the

people.

Is

that

how

you

see

that

there.

Rick Walker

Are

two

pieces

of

legislation?

One

is

Bill

C18

and

the

other

is

Bill

C11.

In

a

nutshell,

what

it

is,

the

government

is

forcing

social

media

companies

to

on

the

one

hand,

give

preference

to

mainstream

legacy

media

outlets

in

search

engine

algorithms

to

push

them

up

in

search

engine

rankings

on

the,

on

the

search

engine

results

pages,

therefore

suppress

smaller

independent

outlets

in

the

in

the

interest

of

what

they

say

is

Canadian

content.

So

they

want

to

put

Canadian

content

up

up

top.

So

they

basically,

if

you

search

for

any

news

content,

that

stuff,

cbc,

ctv,

Global

News,

etc

to

pop

up

first.

The

other

thing

that

they're

trying

to

do

is

make

social

media

companies

pay

the

mainstream

legacy

media

fees

for

the

news

content

that

they

publish

on

the

social

media

platforms.

Facebook

has

told

the

government

that

they

are

not

going

to

participate

in

that.

They

will.

They've

refused

to

pay.

So

they

have

said,

we're

just

not

going

to

carry

any

more

news

content

in

Canada.

We're

just

not

going

to

carry

it.

We

don't

need

it.

It's

not

what

we're.

It

doesn't

make

business

sense

for

us

to

do

it.

So

inadvertently,

as

an

unintended

consequence

of

their

new

legislation,

we

now

have

a

situation

where

Facebook

effectively

banned

all

news

content,

both

independent

and

mainstream

legacy

news

content,

period.

It's

purged

it

from

Canada,

so

everything

is

blocked.

So

now

I'm

in

this

very

unusual

situation

where

we

had

this

Facebook

maverick

news

Facebook

page

with

a

pretty

sizable

list

of

subscribers.

Nobody

in

Canada

can

see

it

and

yet

you

in

the

USA

can

see

that

very

same

page.

It

is

not

blocked

on

your

side.

Joseph M. Leonard

Right?

Rick Walker

It's

very

strange.

Joseph M. Leonard

I'm

a

former

IT

guy,

so

this

to

me.

Oh,

and

I

have

another

V.

Liberty

Beacon

piece

about

leftists

never

realizing

or

paying

attention

to

the

supposed

natural

law

of

unintended

consequences.

Or

in

my

mind,

they

know

they

just

play

dumb.

And

I

think

that's

happening

here.

They

want

it

suppressed

because

they

don't

want

people

to

have

access

to

the

content.

They

want

them

like

we

discussed

on

your

show,

dope

and

dumb

and

uninformed.

But

as

a

former

IT

guy,

I

dare

say

there's

the

phrase

that's

not

a

bug,

it's

a

feature,

right?

To

keep

you

away

from

the

news.

They're

using

the

old

music

laws.

For

those

who

don't

know,

I'm

in

Detroit,

so

I'm

across

from

Windsor,

Ontario.

Canada

has

always

had

special

laws.

Canadian

stations

must

play

X

number

of

Canadian

content

to

prevent

US

Artists

from

overloading

Canadian

stations.

That's

good

to

some

degree.

I

got

to

hear

a

lot

of

Canadian

artists

I

would

not

otherwise

have

heard.

It

seems

to

me

like

they're

trying

to

twist

that

to

impose

this.

Rick Walker

They

are.

Joseph M. Leonard

They

are

flag

of

sorts.

Yeah,

a

backdoor

censorship.

Rick Walker

See,

Canada

has

always

had

strange

regulations

like

that.

That

would

probably

seem

strange

to

you

in

the

United

States.

And

it's

because

we

traditionally

with,

you

know,

regular

legacy

media

or

mediums

like

radio,

tv,

newspapers.

Canada

being

a

huge

country

right

on

the

border

with,

you

know,

right

up

against

the

United

States,

you

have

very

powerful

media.

You

had.

Your

population

is

10

times

ours.

We're

bombarded

with

US

signals.

So

the

Canadian

government,

in

order

to,

because

there's

so

much

competition,

if

you

will,

from

US

Broadcasters,

they've

said

to

Canadian

broadcasters,

you

must

provide

so

much

Canadian

content,

even

Canadian

news.

When

I

was

working

for

CTV

all

those

years,

my

job

was

really

only

there

because

the

government

forced

CTV

to

have

a

news

bureau

in

the

city

that

I

worked

in.

If

it

wasn't

for

that,

CTV

probably

would

not

have

bothered.

They

would

have

done

news

all

out

of

Toronto

or

something

like

that.

They

wouldn't

have

had

reporters

in.

In

other

cities.

So

in

order

to

get

their

broadcast

licenses,

they

would

have

to

have

what

they

call

a

promise

of

performance

declaration.

And

they

have

to

promise

to

provide

certain

amount

of

news

coverage,

all

Canadian

content.

You

know,

it

goes

on

and

on.

So

there

are

regulations

that

have

been

in

place

like

that

for

a

long

time,

and

they're

trying

to

basically

do

the

same

thing

now

with

the

Internet.

And

it's

having

these

crazy

unintended

consequences

because

the

Internet

is

not

television.

And

it's

a

completely

new

era.

Joseph M. Leonard

I

dare

say

it's

not

a

bug,

it's

a

feature.

These

fascists

want

that

control.

And

again,

we

would

see

that

in

the

US

and

stand

up

and

say,

whoa,

you

are

completely

interfering

in

free

markets

and

be

outraged

at

that.

But

a

geography

lesson

for

those

perhaps

in

southern

United

States

who

may

not

recognize

or

realize

what

us

in

the

northern

states

do.

That

border

with

Canada.

Canada,

you

look

at

a

map,

is

a

huge

landmass,

but

90%

of

your

population

is

in

one

tenth

of

the

lower

part

of

your

provinces.

Therefore,

like

you

said,

our

northern

states,

airwaves

and

influence

bombards

the

90%

of

your

population.

Rick Walker

That's

exactly

right.

That's

why

I

actually,

for

my

automotive

television

show,

we

broadcast

out

of

US

Stations,

including

wkbw,

Buffalo

So

my,

my

automotive

program

runs

on

that

station

and

then

it

gets

picked

up

by

its

terrestrial.

So

it

beams

back

over

into

Canada

by

off

air

and

then

gets

picked

up

by

Canadian

cable

companies

and

satellite

companies

and

then

gets

beamed

across

the

country

that

way.

It's

WKBW

is

sitting

right

there

on

the

border.

So

I

do

that

show

that

way.

Anyway,

that's

way

off

topic.

You

get

me

back

on

track,

Joe.

Joseph M. Leonard

Yeah,

this.

You're

again

Canadian,

so

that

why

I

want

you

on.

In

your

perspective,

you

know

who

Tom

McDonald

the

rapper

is,

the

former

wrestler,

right?

Rick Walker

No,

I

don't.

I

don't

know.

Joseph M. Leonard

Oh,

you

don't?

Rick Walker

Okay,

I

don't.

I'm

not

into

rap

and

I

don't

really

watch

wrestling.

So

yeah,

I'm

at

a

bit

of

a

loss.

Joseph M. Leonard

Well,

he

is

a

Canadian

rapper

living

in

the

U.S.

who

knows?

He

may

have

become

a

U.S.

citizen

by

now,

but

he's

controversial

because

he

does

a

lot

of

political

content.

So

he's

leans

right,

but

I

dare

not

say

he's

a

conservative

and

definitely

not

a

Republican.

So

there's

the

cancel

culture

always

going

at

him

and

that.

But

he's

purely

independent

and

sells

everything

direct.

I

bring

him

up

for

this

odd

gray

area.

And

back

to

the

odd

areas.

In

the

law

we

all

understand

and

recognize

as

a

male,

you

do

not

get

to

beat

up

on

a

female.

We

pretty

much

call

it

patriarchy,

if

you

like

leftist

loons.

But

the

law

generally

recognizes

that

a

male

is

indeed

far

more

stronger.

And

you

don't

get

to

abuse

a

girlfriend,

a

spouse,

a

daughter.

Tom

has

a

song.

Maybe

you

could

look

it

up

when

we're

done

here.

Called

Hitting

a

Woman.

And

that's

why

I

brought

that

up.

And

one

of

the

lines

is

you

think

you're

a

bad

bitch,

right?

But

you

know

how

that

would

play

out

in

a

fight.

He's

talking

about

a

woman

goading

him.

And.

Or

in

some

cases

you

can

see

a

man

is

charged

with

assault,

but

clearly

when

the

video

comes

out,

he's

defending

himself

against

an

aggressive

female.

And

we

don't

get

that

benefit

of

the

doubt

because

of

the

patriarchal

mindset.

One

might

say,

yes,

I

knew

that.

Rick Walker

Was

don't

hit,

don't

hit

women.

Joseph M. Leonard

Men

in

general

are

stronger

than

women,

which

is

indeed

why

I

want

to

protect

women's

sports.

And

biological

males

have

no

place

in

female

sports.

It

was

just

on

the

news.

There

is

a

female

at

a

college

playing

in

the

male

college

NCAA

football,

first

ever

woman,

non

kicker

role

playing.

Generally

women

are

weaker,

but

if

they're

strong

enough.

Well,

let

Them

play

like

Ronda

Rousey

would

absolutely

kick

my

butt

any

time

of

the

day

or

night.

She

could

sit

on

the

couch

eating

Krispy

Kremes

for

three

years

and

I

could

go

into

training

and

she'd

still

kick

my

butt.

So

for

every

rule

there

is

an

exception.

And

that

in

of

itself

gets

us

back

to

gray

areas.

Rick Walker

But

I'm,

I'm

Canadian,

so,

you

know,

when

I

was

a

kid

playing

hockey

growing

up,

I

played

hockey

too.

Joseph M. Leonard

So

we

have

that

in

common.

Yeah,

yeah.

Rick Walker

Girls

hockey

was

just

sort

of,

you

know,

in

its

infancy

in

Canada.

They

were

trying

to

get

more

girls

to

play

minor

league

hockey.

And

you

know,

I

played

on

what

they

called

a

competitive

team.

So

we

were

a

travel

team.

They

had

these,

this,

this

girls

team

and

they

were

much

older,

much

bigger,

right?

And

they

wanted

to

play

against

us.

And

so

we

did.

They

arranged

a

game

and

we

played

this

girls

hockey

team.

I

don't

know

exactly

where

this

story

is

going,

but

I

can

only

tell

you

that

we

cleaned

their

clocks,

right?

Like

we

just,

we

kept

scoring

and

scoring

and

scoring

and

scoring

and

scoring.

And

it

felt

really

bad

because

I

don't

know

what

the

score

at

the

end

was.

It

was

like,

I

don't

know,

25

to

nothing

or

something.

It

was

like,

it

was

just,

it

was

brutal

at

the

time.

Joseph M. Leonard

That

brings

to

mind.

Rick Walker

That

felt

like

I

was

hitting

a

girl.

Joseph M. Leonard

Yeah,

that

brings

to

my

mind

the

US

Women's

soccer

team

and

that

dumb.

I'm

sorry,

I'm

going

to

say

it.

Rapinoe

that

I

can't

stand.

Glad

she's

retired.

A

lot

of

us

people

were

glad

they

got

their

clock

clean

and

they

made

an

early

exit

because

of

her

interjecting

the

politics

of

the

sports.

When

you're

there

to

represent

your

country,

just

represent

your

country.

Kneeling

for

the

anthem.

You

know,

the

US

Women's

soccer

team

played

a

high

school

boys

soccer

team

and

same

thing,

got

their

frickin

clock

cleaned.

Rick Walker

I

gotta

tell

you

though,

Joseph,

I

gotta

tell

you

something.

Okay,

so.

Well,

while

that

did

happen,

I

have

to

acknowledge

that

at

the

time

that,

that

girls

hockey

team,

they

just.

The

minor

league

hockey

system

wasn't

really

set

up

for

them

yet.

So

they

just

didn't

have

the

same

training,

they

didn't

have

the

same.

You

know,

a

lot

of

them

hadn't

started

as

young

as,

as

we

had.

Right.

So

they

were

at

a

severe

disadvantage.

Even

though

they

were

much

older

than

us,

we

were

like

little

kids

and

they

were

probably

about

three

years,

four

years

older

than

us

and

we

still

cleaned

their

clocks.

But

my

aunt,

my

Aunt

Betty

Who's

God

bless

her

soul,

no

longer

with

us.

She

taught

me

a

lesson

in

the

most

severe

way.

I

wanted

to

play

baseball.

I

want

to

play

catch

with.

With

my

dad.

But

we

had

company

and

no

one

would

play

catch

with

me.

I

was

just

a

kid,

little

kid.

And.

And

she.

And

she

said,

well,

I'll

play

with

you.

And

I

said,

you

can't

play

baseball.

You're

a

girl.

So

she

said,

well,

yes,

I

can.

And

then

what.

What

we

did

is

she.

She

took

the

baseball

bat

and

I

had

to

throw

the

ball

to

her.

And

I'm

just

playing

in

my

front

yard,

right?

And

she

kept

hitting

that

ball.

She'd

whack

that

ball.

And

she

did

a

home.

She

had

home

run

after

home.

She'd

knock

it

all

the

way

out

into,

you

know,

mile

away.

And

then

I'd

have

to

go

get

the

stupid

ball,

bring

it

back.

Oh,

yeah.

And

then,

and

then

she

was

like,

yay,

home

run.

And

I'd

throw

it

again

and

then

she'd

make

me

run

and

go

get

that

damn

ball.

Yeah.

So

I

learned

a

lesson

that

day

that

girls

can

play

baseball.

Joseph M. Leonard

I'm

glad

you

made

that

caveat

about

your

training

level

versus

the

female

hockey

because

I

have

a

younger

sister.

She

wanted

to

play

hockey.

I

mean,

you

know,

she

wanted

to

be

on

the

team

with

me.

I

was

a

goaltender.

The

women's

USA

soccer

team

trained,

supposed

going

on

to

be

professional

soccer

players.

Losing

to

a

high

school

amateur

boys

team

who

just

took

anyone

and

every.

Unlike

the

Olympic

team

who

supposedly

picks

the

best

and

the

brightest.

Their

random

team

clean

their

clock.

And

since

we

have

hockey

in

common,

do

you

know

who

man

in

Rome

is?

Rick Walker

Mano

Rome?

Joseph M. Leonard

Yeah.

French

Canadian.

First

female

to

be

signed

to

the

NHL.

Rick Walker

The

Golden.

Joseph M. Leonard

Yeah.

Unfortunately

they

didn't

bring

her

up

to

the

NHL.

They

kept

her

in

the

farm

team.

Rick Walker

She

played

at

least

one

game

in

the

NHL,

if

I

recall.

Joseph M. Leonard

I

think

it

was

a

preseason

though,

not

a

standard

regular

season.

So

it

wasn't

official.

I'm

glad

you

know

her.

And

yeah,

I've

got

autograph

pictures

of

her.

She's

an

idol

of

mine.

So,

yeah,

I,

I'm

all

for

women's

sports

and

when

they

can

play

with

the

men,

please

do.

But

not

Leah

Thomas,

who

is

600

ranking

and

male

swimmers

all

of

a

sudden

breaking

female

swimming

records.

No.

Claiming

to

be

a

woman.

No.

Okay.

So

with

that

in

my

shows,

I

try

not

to

go

much

more

than

40

minutes.

So

let

me

close

and

say

yes.

Remember,

this

is

conjunction

with

the

libertybeacon.com

the

things

usually

a

lot

of

gray

area

part

one

gray

areas

part

two

and

that

show

will

be

with

Ms.

Liz

another

Kian

as

I

like

to

just

lovingly

jokingly

jab

call

them

but

please

too

check

out

by

them

flips

off

the

scotus

both

affirmative

action

and

student

debt

additions.

Norton

v.

Shelby

a

very

important

case

regarding

government

overreach

and

usurpation.

The

deep

state

Alphabet

agencies

long

either

unconstitutional

or

overstepping

their

congressional

authority.

Bidenomics

part

one

and

part

two

remembering

our

freedoms

beyond

the

fourth

of

July

that's

there

more

recently

censorship

of

social

media

still

I'm

still

my

main

account

banned

on

Twatter.

So

even

though

Elon's

there

you

can't

get

a

human

to

talk

to

to

get

it

on.

Rick Walker

You're

banned

on

Twitter.

Joseph M. Leonard

Yeah

I

have

author

a

backup

you

know

just

little

piddly

account

that's

mainly

meant

to

promote

my

books

and

this

show.

And

then

lastly

I'll

mention

a

piece

on

ranked

choice

voting

I

urge

you

that

Season

1

Episode

2

I

urge

people

to

check

out

that

article

and

that

show

because

Charlie

Kirk

doesn't

tell

you

everything.

He

only

gives

you

his

little

thing

so

he

can

attack

McConnell.

Rightfully

so.

But

like

Paul

Harvey

says,

you

listen

to

my

show,

read

that

article,

you

will

know

the

rest

of

the

story.

So

thank

you,

Rick.

Please

tell

us

again

where

people

can

find

you

if

they

want

to

reach

out

and

or

to

watch

your

show.

Rick Walker

Well,

we're

on

YouTube,

we're

on

Rumble,

we're

on

Facebook,

Twitter,

Twitch,

Odyssey,

the

main

ones.

Right.

Rumble's

the

word

where

we

really

want

people

to

go.

And

you

can

always

find

us

at

mavericknews,

ca

or

mavericknewschannel.com

that

will

take

you

to

our

website.

You

can

see

a

lot

of

our

videos

on

there.

You

can

also

find

the

link

to

Rumble

right

on

the

header.

So

I

encourage

you

to

just

head

over

there

and

that's

the

easiest

way

to

find

us.

We

have

a

growing

community,

a

real

family

developing

over

there.

It's.

It's

a

lively

discussion

every

night.

Come

on

over,

join

us,

jump

in

the

chat,

join

the

maverick

family.

And.

And

we

actually

go

through

the.

The

process

of

actually

knighting

people

from

time

to

time

too.

So

if

you're.

If

you're

a.

A

freedom

fighter

and

someone

who

believes

in

using

your

superpowers

for

good

and

never

evil,

sign

me

up.

Joseph M. Leonard

Sign

me

up.

Rick Walker

You

might

just

end

up

being

a

Maverick

Knight

if

you.

Joseph M. Leonard

Oh,

that

would

be

a

maverick.

Oh,

such

a

badge

of

er.

But

like

your

brevity,

the

soul

of

wit

and

your

yeses.

I'll

conclude

by

just

saying

one

word.

Exit.

Rick Walker

Bye,

Ciao

for

now.

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