A

show

based

on

the

facts,

honesty,

the

man,

the

myth,

the

legend.

Christitutionalist

Joseph

M.

Leonard.

Welcome

to

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Politics

Podcast

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am

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Joseph

M.

Leonard

and

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say

let's

get

on

with

the

show.

Good

morning

everyone.

First

off,

pardon.

So

pardon.

I'm

wearing

my

takingtherainbowback.com

shirt

and

as

you

could

see

the

yellow

in

the

godly

seven

color

rainbow

reference

to

Genesis

9:16

in

Revelation

4:3

shout

out

to

Messianic

Jew

Rabbi

Kurt

Schneider

in

the

Hillsdale,

Michigan

area.

This

is

his

group

takingtherainbowback.com

at

any

rate,

so

you

could

see

the

yellow

is

kind

of

goofing

up

a

little

bit

because

it

doesn't

work

that

well

with

the

green

screen.

Item

2

Apologize.

I'm

a

little

off

this

morning

because

I

have

an

earache.

I

just

put

some

ear

drops

in

my

right

ear

and

hopefully

this

won't

be

a

weeks

long

problem.

But

at

any

rate,

why

am

I

here

today?

Well,

pretty

obvious

right?

A

new

Pope.

I

don't

know

much

about

him.

Most

people

don't

know

much

about

him.

I'm

already

seeing.

Well

last

night

even

we

were

already

and

still

this

morning

all

kinds

of

speculations

and

what

ifs.

So

I'm

going

to

give

a

little

speculations

in

what

if.

Also,

let's

keep

our

powder

dry.

We

don't

really

fully

know

what

this

means

to

have

quote

the

first

American.

You

know,

I

always

somewhat

hate

that

term.

Canada

and

Mexico

as

well

as

all

the

nations

and

the

South

America

are

American

nations.

But

America

has

come

to

known

for

the

United

States

of

America,

the

first

US

Pope

from

the

Chicago

area.

We

know

that

much.

Let

me

back

up.

I

know

some

in

this

audience

well

actually

probably

not

in

this

audience

are

probably

not

watching

because

they

are

still

upset

with

me

me

and

not

happy

that

I

coined

the

term

nincompope

for

Francis

last

go

round

early

on

when

he

ascended

to

the

papal

see.

And

why

did

I

do

that?

Because

I

firmly

believe

as

born

and

raised

Catholic,

although

I

say

over

and

over

and

over

this

is

not

a

denominational

show.

It's

about

Christianity

and

those

things

that

we

and

could

and

should

be

making

sure

we

are

all

coming

together

on

rather

than

you

know

like

old

arguments

between

like

Irish

Catholic,

Protestant.

Thank

God

those

divides

for

the

most

part

have

been

put

to

rest.

Right?

Lutheran.

My

grandfather

was

Lutheran.

Lutheran

Catholic,

right

Martin

Luther

Reform

break

away

from

the

church.

Can

we

focus

on

things

to

bring

us

together

rather

than

drive

us

apart?

Because

if

we

focus

on

things

in

doctrine

that

we

might

disagree

on

today,

those

were

men

that

led

us

to

here,

not

Jesus

that

led

us

to

hear.

Right.

Our

interpretations

are

loosening

of

verbiage

in

the

Bible

to

reach

new

more

modern

conclusion.

Those

are

creations

of

man,

not

necessarily

God.

So

we

have

to

be

careful

and

come

together,

play

up

our

similarities,

not

our

differences.

Right.

I

like

to

argue.

When

we're

arguing,

Satan

wins.

Christ

doesn't

win.

When

we're

battling

each

other

and

nitpicking

about

things,

Satan

wins.

So

Christitutionalist

Politics

podcast

is

about

the

whole

Bible

in

full

context

while

recognizing,

yes,

our

Bible.

There's

our

hundreds

of

Bibles.

They're

not

all

exactly

the

same.

It's

like

the

other

day

I

came

across

yet

another

mistranslation.

Jonah

and

the

Big

Fish

is

what

it

originally

was

in

the

Latin,

Aramaic,

Greek

and

Hebrew.

But

later

for

the

King

James

version

it

got

translated

in

many

English.

Modern

versions,

it's

Jonah

and

the

Whale.

Well,

we

don't

know

for

sure

if

it

was

a

whale.

It

was

Jonah

and

the

Big

Fish.

We

assume

whale.

We

translate

it

today

to

whale.

But

back

in

biblical

times,

other

large.

I'm

not

looking

for

the

word

amphibian.

What

word

am

I

looking

for?

You

know,

things

that

live

in

the

water.

Is

that

amphibian?

Right.

Pardon

again,

my

ear

is

kind

of

messing

me

up

right

now.

But

let's,

let's

get

to

the

right.

Thou

shalt

not

murder,

Innocence

not.

Thou

shalt

not

kill.

Exodus

22:2

alone

as

well

other

scriptures

talking

about

where

a

killing

isn't

a

murder

of

innocence.

Condemn

that

lest

ye

be

condemned

for

final

judgment

is

reserved

for

the

Lord.

Because

there

are

more

than

a

dozen

other

scriptures

that

say

we

are

to

judge

biblically

and

remove

the

love

from

thine

own

eye.

Right.

Judge

on

biblical

standards

ourselves

and

others,

not

be

a

hypocrite.

So

I

just

wanted

to

mention

that

again,

let's

focus

on

the

things

that

we

could

come

together

on.

But

speculations

regarding

the

Pope.

Are

you

driving

me

crazy?

And

why

I

wanted

to

record

this

brief

show.

We

know

he's

from

Chicago.

I'd

feel

better

if

he

was

born

in

a

small

suburb

of

Kansas

City,

Kansas,

personally.

Because

what

does

that

say

of

him

being

from

Chicago?

Well,

it

could

say

he's

pretty

progressive

like

Francis.

He

spent

so

much

time

in

Peru.

Again,

that

lens

to

is

he

a

us

minded,

more

traditional

Judeo

Christian

ethos

Foundations

of

America

Minded

Catholic,

Christian,

right.

The

reason

I

coined

the

term

nincompo

about

Francis,

I've

always

said

2

Corinthians

7,

14,

pray,

hear,

help

heal

land.

Right,

Pray.

But

no,

there's

more

to

that.

And

action

is

required.

Prayer

alone,

not

enough.

We

are

to

want

and

try

to

turn

from

our

wicked

ways,

as

it

says,

and

God

will

hear

and

help

heal

our

land,

not

just

wave

the

magic

wand

and

do

everything

and

fix

everything

for

us.

So

the

Chicago

thing

could

go

either

of

two

ways.

And

the

Mincom

Pope

thing

comes

from,

in

my

mind,

Pope

Francis

far

more

interested

in

worldly

communism,

theft,

redistribution,

force,

cultural

Marxism,

which

is

what

many

were

looking

for

out

of

South

America

when

he

was

elevated

to

Pope

versus

traditional

orthodoxy.

Catholicism

of

biblical

community,

free

will.

We

are

to

want

to

be

our

brother's

keeper.

If

you're

forced

to

do

it

at

the

barrel

of

a

gun

and

money

stolen

from

you,

then

that's

not

the

biblical

community.

You're

not

doing

it

of

your

own

free

will.

You're

being

forced.

There

is

a

different

there

charity

from

our

own

blood

and

treasure.

We

are

to

want

to

be

our

brother's

keeper.

And

again,

that

distinction.

There

is

a

difference

in

a

distinction

in

the

Bible

between

those

who

are

unable

to

do

things

versus

those

who

are

unwilling

versus

that's

why

Jesus

said,

the

poor

will

always

be

among

you.

You've

heard

me

say

this

before.

That's

not

an

economic

statement.

It's

not

about

communism.

We

need

world

communism

to,

you

know,

socialize

and

equitize

and

lower

the

tides.

Sinking

the

boats

rather

than

rising

tides

to

lift

most

boats,

right?

Promote

the

greater

welfare,

the

common

welfare.

In

our

founding

documents,

that

means

promoting

policy

and

access

and

equal

opportunity

to

all

to

avail

of

their

chance

to

do

better

for

themselves

and

their

family,

not

stealing

from

one

person

to

give

to

another.

And

you've

heard

me

talk

the

failure

of

the

Bradford

Commie

compact.

The

Mayflower

Compact

was

a

commonwealth

communist,

worldly

communist

compact

that

failed.

They

almost

all

starved

to

death

until

Bradford

pivoted

and

instituted

personal

responsibility,

individual

rights

and

freedoms,

not

collective

ones

and

private

property

ownership,

as

opposed

to

the

Commonwealth

collective.

And

the

rest,

they

say.

Paul

Harvey

would

say,

now

you

know

the

rest

of

the

story,

right?

Or

as

the

saying

goes,

now

you

know,

and

the

rest

is

history,

right?

Our

founding

fathers

recognized

long

before

Karl

Marx,

the

failings

of

the

Bradford

colony

and

why

we

were

founded

on

biblical

community,

not

worldly

communism.

So

that's

why

I

coined

that

term.

Francis

was

more

interested

in

worldly

cultural

Marxist

communism,

worldly

communism

than

Catholicism.

A

lot

of

the

time.

But

I

digress.

Now,

the

current

Pope,

Leo,

the

15th,

being

from

Chicago

again,

that

could

go

either

way

with

that

big

city.

We

know

a

lot

goes

on.

There's

conservative

areas,

there's

more

liberal

areas

and

I

get

it,

A

lot

of

people

and

me

included,

I

don't

really

want

to

talk

in

terms

of

liberal

conservative

or

conservative

progressive,

but

of

course

those

are

the

labels

many

are

trying

to

apply.

Now.

I

heard

speculation

that

he

is

against

ordaining

women

as

priests,

but

he

is

more

open

to

communion

to

the

divorced,

which

would

affect

me.

I

still

wear

my

wedding

ring,

but

I

am

divorced,

been

for

a

long

time.

My

wife

is

still

alive.

I

never

did

seek

an

annulment

because

I

never

planned

on

ever

having

the

intention

of

getting

married

again.

So

by

doctrine

I

am

not

open

for

communion

in

a

Catholic

Church.

He's

more

open

to

that.

So

in

that

sense,

to

use

the

word

that

I

hate

to

use

here,

he

is

indeed

more

progressive.

If

that's

the

case.

I

don't

know.

We

don't

know.

It's

too

early

to

tell.

That's

why

I'm

saying

here

we

are

dealing

in

what

ifs

and

speculations.

We've

seen

attacks

on

the

Latin

Mass

of

late.

I've

seen

some

speculating.

He

may

continue

that

leftist

and

again,

I

hate

to

use

the

label,

but

moving

away

from

the

Bible

tradition

of

Latin

Masses

and

lessening

them

to

me,

I

want

Latin

Masses

back

in

full

force.

No

one's

forcing

anyone

to

go

to

a

Latin

Mass,

right?

You

can

choose

to

go

or

not

to

go

to

a

Latin

Mass

or

in

the

US

an

English

spoken

Mass

or

you

know,

in

Mexico

a

Spanish

spoken

Mass.

In

Quebec

Canada,

a

French

spoken

Mass.

I've

not

attended

church

in

Quebec

Canada

ever.

I've

never

been

to

Quebec.

I've

been

in

a

lot

of

places

in

Canada,

but

never

Quebec.

I

don't

know

if

they

do

Mass

in

French.

That's

an

assumption,

a

speculation

on

my

part,

but

I

think

you

get

the

point

there.

No

one

is

forcing

anyone

to

the

Latin

Mass.

That's

great

for

those

who

like

those

traditions.

In

fact,

if

I

can

find

a

Latin

Mass

around

me,

I

haven't

looked

before,

I'm

going

to

seek

one

out

now

just

so

I

can

attend

one

and

be

part

of

that

experience

because

I've

not

been

yet.

So

that's

all

of

a

sudden

now

important

to

me

because

I

don't

know

the

Pope's

Leo,

the

15th

position

on

that.

We're

speculating.

So

Latin

Mass

might

go

away.

Another

thing

is

they're

saying

he's

Another

open

to

the

climate

change

hysteria

type.

More

leftist

leaning

in

that

regard.

I

don't

know

him.

Picking

the

name

Leo

obviously

says

something,

but

we

could

speculate

all

day

long

what

we

think

it

means

to

us.

The

only

person

that

it

matters

to

is

I

need

to

hear

from

Leo

the

15th.

Why

Leo

Pope

Leo

means

so

much

to

him.

My

speculation

is

not

relevant.

Others

then

to

present

it

here

and

indeed

say

my

speculation

is

irrelevant.

The

same

with

all

the

talking

heads

on

tv.

It's

going

to

take

time.

We

need

to

see

where

he

comes

down

on

these

issues.

So

with

that,

I

hope

I

snuck

everything

in

that

I

needed

to.

I

felt

it

obviously

important

as

a

host

of

a

Christian

show

that

I,

you

know,

it's

kind

of

big

news,

right?

So

obviously

I

should

be

on

the

record

as

saying

something.

Am

I

on

the

record

in

saying

let's

keep

our

powder

dry?

And

I

get

it,

the

247

news

channels

have

to

fill

their

airways

with

things.

But

we

as

individual

Christians,

let's

calm

down,

let's

wait

a

tick,

let's

see

how

things

are

going

to

play

out

as

we

go.

Before

I

don't

intend

to

label

him

Nincompope

ii.

Okay.

And

again,

my

apologies.

I

understand

that

upsets

a

lot

of

people,

but

to

me,

born

and

raised

Catholic,

yes,

and

a

former

member

of

the

Knights

of

Columbus.

One

of

the

reasons

I

left

that

organization

was

you

shall

not

criticize

the

Pope

is

one

of

the

rules.

Well,

I'm

sorry,

yes,

I

recognize

the

people

office

for

what

it

is,

but

he's

a

man.

He's

just

another

man.

It

isn't

God

or

Jesus

that

have

screwed

things

up

in

these

churches

down

here.

It

is

men

straying

from

the

Word.

The

whole

reason

I

felt

called

to

do

this,

show

the

whole

Bible

in

full

context.

Not

picking

one

scripture

or

another

and

trying

to

twist

and

distort

it

and

leave

out

other

scriptures

that

are

relevant

for

the

overall

context.

Stay

with

us.

We'll

be

right

back.

Joseph

M.

Leonard,

host

of

Christitutional,

taking

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brief

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right,

that's

the

point

here,

so

I

don't

want

to

rush

and

jump

to

conclusions

yet.

And

the

nincompop

thing

was

part

tongue

in

cheek,

part

Very

serious.

And

again,

I

left

the

Knights

organization

because

to

me,

while

Pope,

that's

a

very

special

position

and

position

of

authority

over

the

Catholic

Church

anyway,

not

necessarily

all

the

other

Christian

churches.

I

recognize

the

importance

of

that

office

as

we

do

the

presidency

of

the

United

States.

Even

when

there's

somebody

in

that

office

we

may

not

like

so

much,

may

not

agree

with

so

much,

but

it

was

part

tongue

in

cheek,

part

to

make

a

point

not

to

attack

the

officers

of

the

Papacy,

not

to

attack

Catholics.

Again,

born

and

raised

Catholic.

Although

my

friend

Pastor

Richard

Clark

Dietering

office

says

I'm

clearly

not

your

average

Catholic.

And

no,

I'd

like

to

pride

myself

in

having

studied

the

other

doctrines,

having

also

studied

non

Christian

religious

doctrines.

It's

important

to

know

and

understand

those.

Exclusion

does

not

mean

preclusion.

Or

I

said

that

backwards.

Preclusion

does

not

mean

exclusion.

Like

I've

talked

about,

we

have

but

one

life

of

a

soul.

That

does

not

preclude.

The

Bible

does

not

specifically

say

that

religion

over

there

with

the

idea

of

reincarnation

is

dead

wrong.

It

doesn't

say

that.

Preclusion

does

not

mean

exclusion.

We

have

the

one

soul.

It

can

take

many

life

forms

as

tests

and

trials.

In

the

Dante's

Inferno

scent

per

se,

you

know,

maybe

your

soul

is

weighing

or

was

weighing

in

the

balance.

You're

given

another

chance

to

show

your

real

soul's

self.

So

I'm

not

saying

I

believe

in

reincarnation.

I'm

saying

I'm

not

ruling

it

out

because

the

Bible

doesn't

specifically

say

it

is

ruled

out.

God

does

not

owe

me.

Jesus

did

not

owe

me

all

the

answers

to

all

my

questions.

I

hope

one

day

that

I

indeed

go

to

heaven

and

will

have

these

questions

answered,

but

I

am

not

owed

them.

Again,

the

sin

is

hubris,

not

pride.

I

should

be

prideful

of

little

Johnny

hitting

the

home

run,

walk

off

home

run

at

Little

League,

right?

I

should

be

proud

of

little

Sally

coming

home

with

all

A's

on

the

credit,

on

the

credit

card,

the

credit

report

on

her

report

card.

I

went

from

school

report

card

to

credit

report

to

credit

card

somehow.

You

know

what

I

mean

though,

again,

right?

Human,

human,

frail,

flawed,

imperfect.

I

make

mistakes.

I

just

did.

I'm

leaving

it

in.

That's

part

of

this

show's

point

and

purpose

and

the

S

of

hubris.

I

should

be

proud

of

a

job

well

done

at

work.

It

is

hubris.

However,

if

I

go

and

demand

pound

on

the

boss

of

death,

you

need

to

double

my

salary

because

I'm

the

only

person

on

the

planet

that

could

have

fixed

the

problem.

We

had.

In

that

case,

the

boss

should

probably

fire

that

person.

They

don't

need

somebody

with

that

attitude

there

and

a

work

situation.

You

need

to

indeed

work

together

for

common

goals.

That's

not

communism

or

it's

micro

communism.

By

choice

we

choose

to

join

the

credit

union

like

it's

a

wonderful

life.

The

savings

and

loan.

We

choose

to

come

together

as

a

collective.

But

no

one

forced

you

to

join

the

savings

and

loan

so

that

all

our

monies

pooled

together

help

each

other

as

a

collective

by

choice,

not

by

force.

So

hubris

is

the

sin,

not

pride.

Okay,

I've

gone

down

other

rabbit

holes

that

I've

intended

to.

So

take

care

of.

God

bless.

May

God

bless

you

all.

May

God

bless

America.

May

God

bless

this

new

Pope.

And

indeed

I

certainly

hope.

And

then

praying

he

brings

us

back

to

more

traditional

Catholicism

and

not

more

into

Pope

Francis

style

cultural

Marxist

New

Catholicism.

A

weakening

of

doctrine

in

the

Church.

But

again,

this

show

is

not

meant

to

be

denominational.

Please

understand

that

what

we

can

come

together

on.

Right,

but

it's

important.

The

office

is

there.

It's

an

important

thing.

Whether

you're

Catholic

or

not,

whether

you

officially

recognize

that

as

the

authority

on

earth

for

God

or

not.

I'm

Catholic

and

as

you

could

tell,

I

don't

fully

believe

that.

Right,

Because

I'm

saying

he's

just

a

man.

And

we

as

humans

are

the

ones

who

have

created

all

these

different

Bibles.

Jesus

never

said

go

forth

and

create

a

hundred

different

religions

in

my

name.

He

didn't

say

that.

And

in

fact

Matthew

7,

is

it

right?

I

came

to

fulfill

the

prophets

and

the

prophecy

and

the

law,

not

supplant

and

replace

it.

The

entire

Old

Testament

terror

was

not

replaced.

Parts

of

it

still

exist.

Right?

Jesus

was

the

final

blood

sacrifice.

So

we

don't

sacrifice

animals

as

we

did.

But

turn

the

other

cheek

is

just

that.

The

new

way

that

we

are

to

adhere

to

first

to

love

even

our

enemies.

But

turn

the

other

cheek

and

love

our

enemy

does

not

mean

be

a

constant

sucker,

be

a

fool

for

others,

be

a

slave

to

others,

always

knuckle

under

to

others.

It

doesn't

say

that.

At

some

point

yes,

wars

happen.

And

an

eye

for

an

eye,

a

tooth

for

a

tooth

can

and

does

then

still

apply.

Again,

if

you

think

the

Old

Testament

is

irrelevant

because

Jesus

somehow

replaced

it

all.

What

about

the

ten

Commandments?

Thou

shalt

not

murder.

Innocence

is

not

valid

anymore

because

that

was

in

the

Old

Testament.

Of

course

you

don't

believe

that,

but

yet

some

antisemites

have

allowed

that

thinking

into

thing.

Well,

the

Jews

killed

Christ

I

wasn't

going

to

go

there

here

in

this

episode,

but

obviously

I

need

to.

Again.

Jesus

was

born

a

Jew

to

fulfill

the

Torah

again.

Matthew

7,

right?

I

came

not

to

replace

the

law

or

the

prophets,

but

to

fulfill

it.

He

began

his

teaching,

his

official

teachings,

his

official

church

at

age

30.

As

a

rabbi

in

the

Jewish

faith

would

he

fulfilled

all

the

Jewish

Torah

scriptures.

The

Jew

at

that

time

that

helped

put

Jesus

to

death

under

Pontius

Pilate,

under

the

Romans

who

actually

put

Jesus

to

death.

It's

the

Romans

who

actually

crucified

him.

And

Pilate

himself

washed

his

hands

of

it,

saying

this

is

their

will.

It

was

the

will

of

the

worldly

leadership

of

the

time,

wanting

to

cling

to

their

worldly

power

and

control.

It

wasn't

all

Jews

put

Jesus

to

death

and

certainly

not

all

Jews

of

today

that

are

responsible

by

blood

libel

for

that.

Even

in

the

Bible,

Jesus

speaks

to

God,

speaks

of

blood

libels,

but

they

end

at

some

point

a

new

covenant.

Huh

huh?

That

term.

So

let

us

please

again,

the

whole

Bible

in

full

context

is

what

this

show

is

about.

And

regarding

Pope

Leo

the

15th,

we

need

to

calm

down

and

wait

and

see.

We

are

still

early

on

here.

The

Jewish

leadership

at

the

time,

they

were

part

of

God's

plan,

part

of

God's

pawn.

If

you

are

to

blame

the

Jews,

then

you

are

to

blame

God

because

it

was

part

of

the

prophecy.

He

had

to

be

put

to

death

and

raised

in

three

days

as

proof

of

the

Messiah,

the

King

of

the

Jews.

As

Christians,

we

are

really

messianic

Jews.

If

you're

a

true

Christian,

that

term

shouldn't

bother

you.

If

it

does,

then

you're

falling

prey

to

the

anti

Semitic

tropes.

And

this

notion

that

all

Jews

are

somehow

responsible

for

Jesus's

death.

It

was

God's

plan.

They

were

pawned.

Why

do

you

think

Jesus

said,

father

forgive

them,

they

know

not

what

they

do.

They

didn't.

They

had

to

do

what

they

did.

Judas

betrayal.

He

had

to

do

what

he

did.

They

were

all

part

of

the

prophecy

and

the

plan,

part

of

God's

plan.

So

to

blame

them

is

to

blame

God.

Please

people,

people,

can

we

stop

the

hate

and

the

division

again?

Christitution

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in

full

context

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