The

vote

goes

to

the

guy

that

hasn't

seen

either

movie.

Roll

down.

Over.

Did

you

say

over?

Nothing

is

over

until

we

decide

it

is.

Was

it

over

when

the

Germans

bombed

Pearl

Harbor?

Hell,

no.

He's

not

as

tough

as

he

thinks.

Neither

are

we.

Before

we

dock,

I

think

we

ought.

To

discuss

the

bonus

situation.

This

is

the

business

we've

chosen.

It's

only

a

model.

We

do

have

to

make

certain

concessions

to

the

war.

We're

three

miles

from

the

front

line.

Proof

that

you

wealthy

college

boys

don't

have

the

education

enough

to

admit

when

you're

wrong.

Forget

it,

Jake.

It's

Chinatown.

Stop.

Don't.

Come

back.

Don't

you

ever

interrupt

me

while

I'm

conducting

business

over

your

little

chicken

ass.

But

don't

ever

take

sides

with

anyone

against

the

family

of

you.

Silly

place.

Welcome

back

to

Cinema

Decon.

Hello,

everyone,

and

welcome

back

to

Cinema

Decon.

Deconstructing

and

overthinking

the

movies

of

our

younger

years.

My

name

is

Steve,

and

I'm

joined

again

by

our

panel

of

elite

film

historians

in

our

special

series

to

find

the

best

movie

of

the

decade,

starting

Here

with

the

1970s,

March

Madness

bracket

style.

Our

returning

panel

today

is

first

off

is

Bud,

longtime

collaborator

of

Cinema

Decon.

Hello.

We

have

Jamal,

who

missed.

Missed

out

on

the

bracket

reveal,

but

he's

with

us

tonight.

You'll

remember

him

from

our

Predator

2

episode.

Hello.

Hello.

Mr.

Mike,

a

regular

frequently

on

our

music

rewind

podcast,

joining

us

for

some

movies.

Hello.

What's

happening?

And

longtime

film

buff

Tony

podcasting

debut

with

this

series.

Hey,

guys.

Welcome,

guys.

This

is

gonna

be

fun.

So

big

disclaimer

right

off

the

bat

again.

These

movies

we

are

about

to

debate

were

made

well

over

45

years

ago.

Many

involved

in

the

making

of

these

films

have

taken

a

dark

path

in

life.

We

will

not.

We

will

try

to

not

focus

on

that,

but

instead

we're

going

to

focus

on

the

movies

as

they

are

and

just,

you

know,

we're

just

talking

about

the

art

and

obviously

some

spoilers

for

some

pretty

old

movies.

If

you

missed

our

previous

episode,

we

did

a

full

bracket

reveal

and

we're

not

going

to

go

retread

that.

Go

back

and

listen

to

it

for

that

wild

time.

Today,

we

are

going

to

tackle

our

north

bracket.

We

will

discuss

each

matchup

and

put

it

to

a

panel

vote.

Starting

us

off

on

the

very

first

is

our

number

one

seed,

alien

versus

number

16,

slap

shot.

This

thing

bled

acid.

Who

knows

what

it's

gonna

do

when

it's

dead.

I

think

it's

safe

to

assume

it

isn't

a

Zombie.

Old

time

hockey.

Piss

on

old

time

hockey.

And

based

on

our

randomizer,

our

go

to

person

this

time

is.

Bud,

what'd

you

think?

Yay.

All

right,

so

let's,

let's

kind

of

break

this

down.

Like

we

know

Alien

is

all

about

drama,

suspense,

thriller,

that

kind

of

stuff.

Right.

But

then

we

have

Slapshot,

which

is

like

polar

opposite

land.

That's

all

about

crude

and

rude

comedy

through

the

whole

thing.

Statistically,

when

you

look

at

this

at

those

two,

those

two

will

call

them

genres.

The

more

thriller

type

movies

usually

have

a

better

rating

and

better

opinion

than

the

most

of

the

comedies.

So

based

off

of

everything

that

I've

seen

and

that

I've

watched

the

movies

and,

and

went

through

the,

went

through

the

ratings,

went

kind

of

went

through

everything

and

I

found

that

there

was

a

lot

of

pros

and

a

lot

of

cons

to

both

movies.

Yeah.

So

like

Alien,

for

example,

I

mean,

the

storyline

was

suspenseful.

It

was

also,

I

mean,

for

its

time,

it

was

terrifying.

I

mean,

and

it

really

explored

like

survival

type

of

a

theme,

you

know,

of

just

trying

to

stay

alive

and

survive

this

Alien.

But

when

we

look

at

like

slap

shot

pros,

it's

funny,

it's

hysterical,

it's,

it's,

it's

has

satire,

it's

straightforward,

and

it's

just

your

typical

sports

comedy.

I

think

they're,

they're

the

ones

that,

that

really

kind

of

put

those

sports

comedy

type

movies

on

the

map

in

the

grand

scheme.

Yeah,

we're

really

kind

of

starting

out

with

a

right

off

the

bat,

two

completely

different

genres

and

it's,

it's

really

hard

to

put

a

mirror

to

both

of

them.

Right.

And

it's,

it's

definitely

one

that

could

easily,

you

know,

vote.

Not

the

way,

you

know,

you

could

think

because

there's

a

lot

of

sports

fans

here

on

this

panel.

But

then

again,

there's

Alien

is

a

juggernaut

with

the,

the

franchise,

you

cultural

impact.

After

that,

it

really

set

the

stage

of

that

haunted

house

in

space,

which

has

been

tried

to

be

duplicated

many

times,

but

never

quite

the

same.

And

let

alone

that,

you

know,

chest

bursting

scene

that's,

I

mean,

everyone

remembers

that.

Even

if

you

haven't

seen

it

because

you've

seen

Spaceballs,

you

still

know

that

scene.

Right.

Like

it

was

better

than

Spaceballs.

John

Hurt

return

for

it.

Nothing

is

better

than

Spaceballs.

Not

again.

I

saw

Spaceballs

first

well

before

I

saw

this.

So

it

was.

I

didn't

understand

the

reference

until

much

later.

Prepare

to

fast

forward.

Okay,

moving

on.

But

our

not

with

us

right

now

cohort,

Aaron

turned

me

on

to

Slap

Shot

years

ago,

I

never

even

heard

of

it.

But,

I

mean,

Paul

Newman

as

a

minor

league

hockey

player,

that

was

brilliant.

And

then

the

whole.

I

mean,

like,

a

lot

of

the

Mighty

Duck

stuff

was,

like,

ripped

from

this

movie,

you

know,

with

the

Bash

Brothers

and

things

like

that.

It

was

really

a

great

sports

flick.

And

then

the,

you

know,

you.

What's

that

scene?

You.

You

do

two

minutes,

you

feel

shame.

If

you

go

to

the

box,

you

feel

more

shame,

and

then

you

go

play.

Yeah,

but

I

don't

remember

the

plot

whatsoever.

All

I

remember

is,

like,

crazy

hockey

antics.

Yeah,

I

mean,

well,

let's

also

consider

the

cast

between

the

two

movies,

right?

Alien.

Now,

we

all

know

it

has

Sigourney

Weaver

in

it,

but

back

then,

when

that

was

released,

nobody

had

any

idea

who

Sigourney

either

was,

right?

So

the.

The

entire

cast

for

Alien

was

actually

a

bunch

of

unknowns.

And

then

on

the

flip

side,

you

have

Slap

Shot

that

shows

Paul

Newman,

which

obviously

is

a.

Is

an

icon

that.

That

people

will

want

to

go

see,

and

so

that

you

have

the

notoriety

right

off

the

bat,

just

based

off

of

the

cast

that's.

That's

in

Slap

Shot.

Now,

as

time

has

progressed,

we

have

seen

how

well

Alien

progressed,

especially

in

its

own

franchise,

and

how,

I

think,

how

it's

continuing

to

progress

even

to

this

day.

So

I

don't

know,

man,

at

the

end

of

the

day,

if

I

was

to

make

her,

if

I

was

to

vote

and

I

was

to

say

this

is

the

way

I

would

do

it,

I

would

say

that

based

off

of

the

storyline,

based

off

of

its

history,

and

based

off

of

its

success,

I

would

have

to

say

Alien

is

better.

So

for

Alien,

it

just

seems

like

one

of

those

movies

that

every

time

you

watch

it,

you

pick

up

on

something

else

that

you're

like,

that's

excellent.

And

this

last

time

I

watched

it,

how

invested

Ian

Holm

is

in

his

character

is.

That

was

what

I,

you

know,

noticed

on

the

last

watch

and

have,

you

know,

knowing

what's

coming.

I

thought

that

he

was

great,

and

I

thought

all

the

characters

themselves

were.

Were

pretty.

All

on

the

same

page,

on

the

same

agenda.

And

that's

usually

what

happens

when

a

great

movie

comes

out,

when

everyone's

focusing

on

the

same

goal.

I.

I

had

to

sit

down

and

watch

Slap

Shot.

My

stepdad

made

me

sit

down

and

watch

Slapshot.

Ironically

enough,

after

we

watched,

we

went

to

the

movies

Mighty

Ducks.

And

then

he

said

there

were

some

references,

and

they

made

me

sit

down

and

watch

it.

And

I

don't

remember

too

much

other

than

like.

Like

Steve

said,

with

the

antics

or

whatnot.

I

know

it

wasn't

a

bad

movie.

I

didn't

know

who.

Paul

Newman.

That

was

my

first

time

even

seeing

who

that

really

was.

My

stepdad

really

put

me

on

a

lot

of

that.

Alien.

My

babysitter

sons,

they

were

re.

When

Aliens

came

out,

they

were

running

a

two

for

special

in

my.

My

babysitters

son

snuck

me

in

to

go

watch

Alien,

which

terrified,

you

know,

like

a

seven

year

old

me,

you

know,

to

this.

To

this

day.

But

the.

The.

The

idea

that,

you

know,

the.

Of.

Of

having

a.

Basically

a

horror

film

stuck

in

space

with

a

claust.

With.

With

claustrophobia

or

something

that

to.

To

this

day,

like

you.

I

played

the

video

games

for

Alien.

I've,

you

know,

watched

all

the

Alien

movies,

all

of

them.

And.

And

for

me,

like

the.

The

whole

universe

even

to

me

is

something

that

to

this

day,

like

you

said,

they

tried

to

duplicate

is

just

phenomenal

for

me.

Like

I.

And

it

was.

To

me,

it

was

just.

It

took

the.

The

genre

into

a

whole

new

space

for

me.

Alien

was

just.

Was

just

that

movie

for

me.

So

are

we

ready

to

call

a

vote

for

this

particular

matchup

then?

Yes,

Bud,

lead

us

off.

Oh,

Alien

all

the

way.

All

right,

Tony.

Yeah,

it's

Alien.

Mike,

I

will

say

Alien,

even

though

I

don't

really

care

for

the

franchise

or

the

movie

that

much,

but

Slap

Shot

was

a

movie

that

my

parents

always

quoted

when

I

was

a

kid.

But

I.

It's.

It's

a

good

sports

funny

movie,

but

it's.

And

it

led

the

way,

but

it

was

never

like,

like

super

iconic

like

Alien

is.

I'm

literally

voting

for

that

movie

because

it's

iconic

more

than

something

I

enjoy.

There

may

be

a

few

like

that

in

this

list

if

you.

If

some

of

us

didn't

get

a

chance

to

watch.

But.

Yeah,

Jamal,

your.

Your

vote

doesn't

count,

but.

Wow.

Yeah.

Okay,

Neither

does

mine,

so.

But

what

were

you

gonna

say?

Oh,

Alien.

Oh,

Alien.

All

right.

Yeah.

Well,

look,

what

could

have

been

a.

A

tight

one,

you

know,

it's

five

nothing.

So

I.

I

can't

go

against

Alien

either.

So.

Yeah.

Great

flick.

All

right,

matchup

number

two

is

number

eight,

the

bad

News

Bears

versus

number

nine,

Serpico.

Take

we

wash

our

own

laundry

around

here.

Now,

you

could

be

brought

up

in

charges.

I

always

thought

so,

but

the

reality.

Is

that

we

do

not

wash

our

own

laundry.

Again,

two

polar

opposites.

Polar

opposites.

Yes.

Tony,

you

want

to

lead

us

off

on

this

one?

Sure.

So,

yeah,

what

bud

touched

on

earlier

with

comedies

usually

getting

generally

lower

reviews.

What

you're

Going

to

find

out

about

me.

I'm

not

big

on

comedies.

I'm

looking

for

a

movie.

It's

not

going

to

be

a

comedy.

I

will

watch

them,

but

my

personal

preference

is

anything

but.

Now

Serpico,

I

had

watched

it

a

long

time

ago

and

I

remember

enjoying

it.

I

saw

that

it

wasn't

on

the

actual

list

and

it

got

added

and

I'm

glad

it

got

into

the

bracket

because

I

just

rewatched

it

a

few

weeks

ago.

And

I

don't

know

how

Al

Pacino

did

not

win

best

actor

for

this

because

he

carries

the

entire

thing.

And

this

was.

He

got

the,

he

got

Academy

Award

nomination

though,

right?

He

did

get

a

nomination.

I

can't

remember

who

won

it

actually.

It

was,

it

was

1973.

I

think

it

was

a

dude

from

Grumpy

Old

Men.

Oh,

really?

Walter.

Matthew.

No,

the

other

one.

Lemon.

Yeah,

yeah,

yeah.

I

don't

know

what

movie

was

for,

but

I

remember

looking

that

up

a

while

ago.

But

it's,

you

know,

it's,

it's

a

true

story

with

some,

you

know,

dramatization

added.

But

I

can

see

it,

you

know,

I

can

see

that

time

and

I

can

see

how

every

cop

is

dirty

and

you

put

this

one

guy

who

just

wants

to

be

a

good,

clean

cop

and

you

know,

everywhere

he

turns

his,

his

back

up

against

the

wall,

you

know,

and

it

ends

up.

I

like

the,

the,

how

they

do

the

time.

Time

alteration

there.

I

thought

it

was

good

and

then

I.

It's

one

of

those

movies

where

the

pacing

was

fine

up

until

the

third

act

and

then

everything

crammed

in

the

last

20

minutes.

And

I

thought

that

the

movie

could

have

gone

another

30,

40

minutes

and

would

have

been

great

to

fit

it

all

in.

But

just

going

scene

by

scene,

you

know,

Al

Pacino

is,

is

killing

it

in

this

movie.

That's,

that's

my

take

on

this.

Bad

News

Bears,

you

know.

Great.

I've

seen

it

a

few

times,

just

not

big

on

comedies.

Serpico

surprised

me.

I,

I

was

a

first

time

watch

for

me,

honestly.

And

it

was

quite

good.

You

know,

I

didn't

know

it

was

a

Sydney

Lume,

you

know,

video.

And

you're

right,

Al

pacino

carried

it

100.

It

was.

Maybe

I

just

kind

of

knew

the

story

already

in

my

head

from

somewhere

else.

So

I

kind

of

knew

where,

where

it

was

all

going.

And

that

may

have

affected

my

viewing,

but

he

did.

I

mean,

it's

a

great

movie.

Great

movie.

Personally,

I,

I'm

gonna

probably

lean

more

the

Bad

News

Bears,

but

I'm

still

undecided

at

this

point

because

I,

I

Can't

watch

the

Bad

News

Bears

and

not

laugh

my

ass

off.

Those

kids

in

that

movie

just

say

the

most

wildest

offensive

and

just.

It,

you

know,

the

kind

of

thing

that

would,

you

know,

get

you

kicked

out

of

England

for

good

right

now.

I

mean,

it.

They

would.

It.

It's

just

unbelievable

the

things

they

say

in

that

movie.

And

I'm

also

a

sucker

for

a

baseball

movie.

Love

a

good

baseball

movie.

And.

And

they

lose.

They

don't

win

in

the

end.

You

know,

they

got

the

whole

rocky

ending

there.

So

they

lose

and

then

that

trophy

ceremony,

you

know,

hey,

Yankees,

shove

that

trophy

up

your

ass.

It's

great.

So

I'm.

I'm

leaning

comedy.

So

I'm

curious

to

see

where.

What

y'all

have

to

say

as

well.

Now,

I

did

get

a

chance

to

re

watch

Bad

News

Bears

and

you're

right,

like

the.

They

say

in

there,

like,

you

couldn't

get

away

with.

But

it

was

so.

It

was

hilarious.

And.

But

Serpico,

it

wasn't

like

a.

It

wasn't

like

a

slow

burn.

But,

man,

Al

Pacino

was

on

fire,

like

in

the

70s,

man.

It

was

like

this

movie

right

here.

Kind

of

watching

it

as

an

adult,

you

know,

it

hits.

It

hits

a

little

different

than,

you

know,

watching

it,

you

know,

when

even

in

my

20s

or

30s.

So.

But

bad

News

Bears

was

just.

I

don't

dig

a

lot

of

comedies,

but

like,

this

right

here

was

so

raunchy.

I

just.

It

was

sticks

out.

Blazing

Saddles

with

kids.

I

was

gonna

say,

what

about

placing?

Yeah.

Yes.

Yes.

Yeah.

There's

so

many

good

lines

in

this

movie.

I

mean,

I'm.

I'm

just.

I'm

a

huge

baseball

guy.

So,

like,

to

me,

any

baseball

movie

is

always

like

one

up

above

most

movies,

whether

it's

Major

League

or

Feel

the

Dreams

or

Eight

Men

out

or.

And

you

know,

Al

Pacino

is

great

in

this

movie,

but

to

me,

like,

Bad

News

Bears,

that

was

just

something

that,

like

you.

The

time

capsule

and

the.

Yes.

The

fact

that

you

can

get

kids.

You

could

get

kids

to

say

all

that.

And,

and

you

know,

Walter,

Matthew,

like,

alone,

just

because,

you

know,

the

first

time

I

think

I

ever

saw

him

as

a

kid

was

like

grumpy

Old

men

and,

you

know,

so

you

don't

really

know.

And

then

they're

like,

oh,

you

gotta

watch

him

in

this.

And

then

I

remember

watching

it

going,

man,

he's

so

great.

Like,

it's

just

a

slob,

you

know,

it's

amazing

how.

How

good

he

is.

Yeah.

I

remember

watching,

like,

say,

Mighty

Ducks.

We

mentioned

earlier,

you

got

Emilio

Estevez

he's

a

jerk

in

it,

right?

And,

you

know,

the.

The

typical,

you

know,

coach

that

doesn't

want

to

be

there,

but

this

one

was

the

original

kind

of.

Of

that

and

kind

of

set

the.

Set

the

stage

for

that

particular

archetype

of

that

coach

that

just

doesn't

give

a.

Well,

I.

For

me,

I

guess

kind

of

in

the

same

vein,

there's.

There's

one

side

of

me

that

really

likes

the.

The.

The

comedy.

I

thought

it

was

a

great

movie

overall,

but

it

also

just

seemed

more

slapsticky

and.

And

raunchy

type

comedy,

which

is.

Isn't

a

bad

thing.

I

don't

have

an

issue

with

it.

But

when

I

compare

it

against

something

like

Serpico,

for

example.

Sorry,

man.

Al

Pacino.

You

can't

go

wrong.

I

mean,

to

me,

that.

That's

way

better

than.

Than

the

Bad

News

Bears,

but

I

think

they're

both

great

movies,

so

I'm

leaning

more

towards

Serpico.

Are

we

ready

to

vote?

Yeah.

All

right,

Tony,

lead

us

off

for

this

one.

Serpico.

Mike.

I'm

gonna

say

Bad

News

Bears.

I

am

gonna

say

Bad

News

Bears.

Jamal.

Oh,

going

with

Serpico,

man.

What

you

got,

bud?

Oh,

and

why

do

I

have

to

be

the

tiebreaker?

Serpico.

Oh,

I

thought

we're

gonna

have

a

comedy

so

early.

That's

a.

That's

an

upset

right

away,

too.

Surfer

goes

nine

seed.

Yeah.

Eight.

Nine.

Yeah.

All

right.

I'm

not.

I'm

not

unhappy

with

that.

Say

it's.

It's

two.

Two

good

movies.

Two

good

movies.

And

honestly,

I

mean,

Alien

v.

Serpico,

that.

I

think

that

is

going

to

provide

a

lot

more

discussion.

We.

But

we

missed

an

opportunity.

We

could

have

had

Slap

Shot

versus

Bad

News

Bears.

I.

I'm.

We

could

have

pointed

in

all

y'all.

That

would

also

be

a

very

long

conversation.

All

right,

next

up,

We've

got

number

five,

Monty

Python

and

the

Holy

Grail

versus

number

12,

Greece.

You

and

all

your

silly

English,

but.

No

customer

would

go

to

you

unless

she

was

a

hooker.

And

leading

us

off

is

Mike.

Yeah,

this

is

actually

a.

A

kind

of

a

wild

matchup

if

you

really

think

about

it.

I

mean,

either,

like,

a

definitely

die

hard,

like,

Monty

Python

person,

you

know,

like.

Or

you're

like,

oh,

it's

funny,

or

you

just

hate

it.

Like,

you

know,

that's.

There's.

There's

like,

three

type

of

people

on

that.

Like,

I

enjoy

Monty

Pylon.

I

think

it's

funny.

I'm

not,

like,

super

hardcore

into

them,

but,

like,

I

mean,

obviously,

the,

you

know,

the.

The

Holy

Grail

has

so

many,

like,

quotable

lines,

and

it's,

you

know,

just

clever

all

the

way

through

with,

you

know,

how

it's

all

the.

Just

the

different

things

and

that.

That

happen

in

the

movie.

And

I

mean,

you

gotta

love

those

guys

that

especially

that

the.

How

well

they

work

with

each

other,

you

know,

the

Flying

Circus

guys.

And,

I

mean,

people

are

still

talking

about

this

movie

to

this

day

and.

And

how

much.

How

much,

like,

inspired

some

other

people

and

other

sketch

comedy

groups

and

how

movies

get

done

this

day.

And

then,

you

know,

and

then

you

got

Grease,

which

is

a

pretty

big,

you

know,

movie

musical,

like,

and

it's

actually

one

that

people

really

enjoy.

You

know,

I

can't

tell

you

how

many

times

I

think

I've

watched

as

a

kid

with

my

sister

constantly

playing

it.

Like,

and,

I

mean,

my

parents

had

the

record,

and

I

still.

I

actually

have

the

record

still.

And,

like,

I

could.

I.

You

could

probably

drop

me

off

in

any

part

of

the.

You

know,

the

record

of

the

movie.

And,

like,

you

know,

like,

you

could

probably

sing

that.

That.

That

rest.

I

mean,

nobody

wants

to

hear

me

do

it,

but,

like,

you

could

definitely,

you

know,

sit

and

go

through

that

and

sing

the

whole

damn

thing

if

you

really

wanted

to.

It's.

It's.

It's

crazy

because,

like,

you

know,

you

think

about,

like,

other

musicals

that

were

made

with

big

names.

It's

almost

like

they.

They

started

doing

that,

like,

after

this.

Like,

John

Travolta

was

big,

but

he

wasn't,

like,

having

somebody

like,

like,

shoehorn

him

in

and

Olivia

Newton

John.

Same

way.

Like,

they're

both

big

names,

but

they

weren't

like,

oh,

we

got

to

have

them

because

they're

big

names.

They

had

the

chops,

and

they

could

sing

and

dance

and

all

that

stuff.

So,

I

mean,

it's

a.

It's

a

pretty

good

matchup.

Both

great

movies.

I

mean,

they're.

It's

like,

to

me,

it's.

I.

I

know

my

sister

ever

listens

to

this.

You'd

probably

kill

me

if

I,

like,

didn't

like

out

Grease

as

one

of

the

greatest

movies

of

all

time.

We're

gonna

feel

the

wrath

of.

Of

the

nerds

on

one

hand

and

the

theater

kicks

theater

geeks

on

the

other.

You

know,

someone's

gonna

come

after

us

here.

I

got

an

interesting

take

on.

On

this

one

because

I

looked

at

it

on

paper

and

it

was,

oh,

for

sure.

I'm

gonna

vote

Monty

Python.

Having

what

I

said.

What

I

said

about

comedies,

you

know,

this

is

one

where

I

grew

up.

Grew

up

watching

all

the

time.

My

interesting

take

part

is

not

your

audience,

but

who

you're

watching

the

movie

with.

So

I

actually

sat

down

two

weeks

ago

and

put

this

on

with

my

dad

and

who

is

one

generation

removed

from

being

British.

I'm

holding

back

laughter.

And

he

is.

This

is

the

dumbest

thing

I've

ever

watched.

And,

And.

And

the

more

we

got

into

it,

I'm

starting

to

side

with

him

as

how

dumb

it

is.

And

he

is

swaying

my

opinion,

and

he's

right.

And

I'm

also

a

little

biased

towards

the

other

way,

having

been

a

part

of

a

production

of

Greece,

which

I

enjoyed.

Always

enjoyed

Greece.

Yes.

Even

though,

you

know,

Monty

Python

has

all

these

quotes

in

it,

as

a.

As

just

a

movie

standpoint,

you

know,

I

would

be

leaning

Grease

at

this

point,

unless

someone

else

can

sway

me

here.

I

don't

know

about

swaying

you,

but

I

have

a.

A

fondness

for

both

movies.

I

mean,

Greece

was

played

a

lot

more

than

Holy

Grail

when.

When

I

grew

up

and,

you

know,

toys

my

brother.

But

we've

got

some.

Some

years

between

us.

Greece

was

one

of

those

things

that

there

was

a

VHS

tape

of

always,

and

it

just

got

thrown

in.

And

so

two

movies

that

I

could

probably

already.

I

know

them

both

by

heart,

word

for

word,

and,

you

know,

hate.

Hate

to

admit

it,

but

love

to

admit

it.

My

love

of

the

Holy

Grail,

though,

really

came

from

the

barracks.

We

watched

that

all

the

time

in

the

army.

It

was

just

always

on.

Somebody

had

it

on,

and

everybody

just,

you

know,

laughing

it

up.

But

it's.

It's.

To

me,

it's

more

than

just

absurdist

humor.

There's

a

lot

of

intelligence

there.

The.

This.

The

intelligent

humor

is

almost

the

subtext

of

the

movie.

And

it

comes

out

even

more

on

the

stage

show

that

Eric

Idle

put

together.

But

that's.

That's

not

the

point

here.

I

do

love

the

station.

Spamalot's

awesome.

Go

see

Spamalot

if

you

haven't

seen

it.

But

the.

The

movie

itself,

so

many

different

vignettes

through

it

that

all

have

this

underlying

current

of

they

don't

know

what

the

hell's

going

on,

but

they

do.

To

me,

the

only

weak

point

of

the

entire

movie

is

the

very

end,

where

they

kind

of

didn't

really

know

how

to

end

it,

so

they

just

kind

of

ended

it

with

the

police

rating,

this

narrator,

and

it

kind

of.

You

look

around

like,

that's

it.

That's

the

end.

Whereas

Greece

has

more.

To

me,

it

has

more.

More

weak

points.

Specifically,

they're

all

in

their,

like,

60s

playing

teenagers

that

I

can't

not

see

that

every

time

I

watch

it,

well.

To

be

fair

though,

Steve,

like,

when

the

first

time

you

watched

it,

you

were

a

kid,

so

you

didn't

know

any

better.

Everybody

was

older.

You

know,

you

look

at

them

like,

oh,

yeah,

that

could

be

an

18

year

old

kid.

Because

you

don't

know.

Everybody.

Thought

that's

what

high

schoolers

look

like.

Yeah,

exactly.

These

guys

are

paying

child

support

in

this

movie.

Got

mortgages,

I

got

alimony.

But,

you

know,

I'm

not

wavering

at

this

point.

I'm

pretty

solidly

gonna

go

Python.

But

Jamal,

what

do

you

think?

Greece.

Greece

kind

of

holds

a

special

place

for

me

only

because

I

was

in

the

play.

We

did

the,

we

did

the

play

two

years

in

a

row

and

in

middle

school,

so

I

did

like

20

plays.

10,

10

each

year.

So

I

know

all

the

dances,

I

know

all

the

songs.

I'm

gonna

tell

you

who

I

play.

But

I

was,

you

know,

we,

it

holds

a

place

for

me.

And

then

Monty

Python,

like,

the

first

time

I

watched

that

was

with

Aaron.

Aaron

sat

down

and

he's

like,

you're

gonna

love

this.

You're

gonna

love

this.

And

I

didn't.

It,

I

didn't

get

it.

I

didn't

get

it.

Like,

there's

nothing

worse

than

like,

I'm

so

excited

to

show

you

this.

And

you're

like,

what

the

is

going

on?

Yeah.

What

is

happening?

Aaron,

you

know,

and

Aaron,

my

friend,

he

was,

you

know,

Aaron

was

like

laughing

his

ass

off.

And

I'm

like,

man,

what

the

hell

is

going

on?

Like,

but

I,

I,

I

respect

it

and

I

love

it

for

the

fact

that,

you

know,

even

to

this

day,

like,

you,

you

find

comics,

one

that,

that'll

still

reach

back

and,

you

know,

pay

homage

to

this

movie

and

the

whole,

and

the

whole

lineage,

which

is,

which

is,

I

think,

pretty

cool.

Which,

you

know,

speaks

to

his

staying

power

and

what

it

meant

to,

to

the,

to

the

genre

and

the

movies

in

general.

And

even

like,

like,

you

know,

I

watch

a

lot

of

skits

and

stuff

on,

on

YouTube

or

whatnot,

and

you'll

see,

like,

there's

certain

things

that

they,

that

they

did

as

far

as

just

like

dialogue

wise

that

you,

that

you'll

run

across

in

today.

So

this

one's

kind

of

tough

for

me

because

it's

Greece

and,

you

know,

I

don't

know.

I

don't

know.

Oh,

no.

Jamal,

is

there

a

video

out

there

of

you

singing

Beauty

School

Dropout?

I

gotta

know.

I

can

either

confirm

nor

deny

if

anything

regarding

what

happened

at

that

middle

school.

All

right,

well,

anything

else

to

say

before

I

call

a

vote.

At

the

end

of

the

Day.

I

don't

like

musicals.

I

have

her,

and

here's

why.

And

Greece

is

the

reason

for

this,

by

the

way.

Boy,

a

whole

lot.

A

whole

lot

of

trauma's

getting

on

black

tonight.

So

what

I

have

to

tell

my

kids

all

the

time

is

back

in

my

day

in

the

1900s,

dead

serious.

And

they're

like,

yeah.

Then

they

pipe

up

and

they're

like,

ooh,

what

happened

back

then?

But

my

mom

played

that

movie

at

least

once

a

week,

had

the

record.

It

was

non

stop

for

years.

So

I

blame

my

mom

at

this

point.

She

burnt

me

out

on

that.

I

just.

I

couldn't

do

it.

Now

when

I

watched

Holy

Grail.

Holy.

That

was

hilarious.

I

got

it.

I

totally

understood

what

was

being

said.

It

was

great.

Probably

one

of

the

better

comedies.

There's.

There's

obviously

others

that

are

better,

but

that

was.

It's

such

an

iconic

movie

and

it's

still

to

this

day

referenced.

I

don't

think

Greece

has

really

been

referenced

here

lately,

except

for,

I

guess,

in

this.

In

this.

So.

So

if

it

was

me,

I'm.

Yeah,

I'm

definitely

not

leaning

towards

the

musicals.

All

right,

so

let's

call

a

vote.

Mike,

lead

us

off.

Yeah,

I'm

gonna.

I'm

gonna

have

to

go

Greece

because

I

just.

I

have

to.

I

have

to

see

my

niece

and

nephew

and

my

family

again,

I

think

so.

Well,

I'm

going

to

incur

the

wrath

of

my.

My

son's,

you

know,

theater

crew,

and

I'm

voting

Monty

Python.

Jamal.

Oh,

man.

Nostalgia

or

Bud,

you

seem

a

little

triggered

when

you

were

talking

about

Greece,

and

I

felt

that.

I

felt

that,

like

I

was

a

core

level.

I

mean,

it.

It

hits

down

deep.

It

really

does.

Yeah,

it

really

does.

Like,

Bud's

love

of

musicals

makes

me

want

to

have,

you

know,

Grease

going

up

against

Willy

Wonka.

I'm.

I'm.

I'm

going

with

Monty

Python

1,

Grease

2,

Monty

Python.

But.

All

right,

you.

You

know,

it's

going

to

be

Monty

Python.

I

mean,

money

is

the

way

to

go.

That

is

the

obvious

winner.

Tony,

I'm

sorry

your

vote

doesn't

count

this

round,

but

who

are

you

going

to

vote

for?

The

better

movie?

Greece.

Oh,

yeah.

Tony,

you're

the

one

that

I

want.

Good

job.

I

see

what

you

did

there,

slick.

I

said

nobody

quotes

it.

I'm

just

gonna

quote

it

the

whole.

Time

now

going

forward,

it's

just

a

flesh

wound.

I

was.

I

was

really

hoping

for

a

512

upset

right

off

the

bat,

but

it's

possible.

It

was

possible.

Everyone

kind

of.

You

held

the

power

and

you

ruined

it.

Killed

the

momentum

there,

Jamal.

Yeah,

good.

Good

job,

Jamal.

Yep,

that's

what

I'm

here

for,

bud.

You

moved

us

with

your

story

of

trauma.

It

was

my

mom.

So

next

up,

we've

got

the

number

four,

the

deer

hunter

versus

number

13,

Willy

Wonka

and

the

Chocolate

Factory.

Hey,

you

know

your

trouble,

my

Khan?

Nobody

ever

knows

what

the

you're

talking

about.

Huh?

This

is

this.

What

the

hell

is

that

supposed

to

mean?

This

is

this.

We

are

the

music

makers

and

we

are

the

dreamers

of

dreams.

Again,

two

very

similar

movies

of,

you

know,

horror,

abuse,

and

traumatic

events.

If

you're

an

Oompa

Loompa.

Oh,

I

lead

off

on

this

one,

so.

All

right,

so

the

Deer

Hunter.

This

was

a

weird

watch

for

me

when

I

first

saw

it

because

I

didn't

really

know

anything

about

it.

And

it

kind

of

like,

it's.

It's

one

of

those

movies

where

you

watch

it

and

everyone

sits

in

silence

the

entire

time,

and

then

you.

The

movie's

over

and

you

just

kind

of

like

everyone

kind

of

drifts

off

silently.

No

one

really

knows

what

to

say.

Like,

what.

What

the

hell

do

you

say

after

that?

Yeah,

it's

not

really

very

quotable,

unless

you

want

to

walk

around

yelling

Diddy

Mao,

I

guess.

But

it's.

It's

definitely

intense.

The

performances

are

amazing.

But

it's

like

a

one

time

watch

for

me.

I.

I

can't.

It's

not

repeatable.

And

in

my

opinion,

there

are

better

war

movies

that

are

not,

as,

I

don't

know,

visceral,

I

guess.

And

then

on

the

flip

side,

you've

got

Willy

Wonka

and

the

Chocolate

Factory,

which

every

child

has

seen

a

million

times

over.

Fantastic

movie.

You

can't

say

enough

about

Gene

Wilder

and

his

performance.

Iconic.

Sorry,

Johnny

Depp.

It

doesn't

come

close.

He

will.

Gene

Wilder

will

always

be

my

Willy

Wonka.

And

that

is

embedded

in

my

memory,

along

with

Grandpa

Joe

being

one

of

the

most

understated

villains

in

cinematic

history.

That

dude,

I

still

don't

understand

why

he

was

in

bed

for

45

years

and

then

just

got

up.

Because

there

was

a

golden

ticket.

A

free

trip

to

a

factory

motivates.

You.

Even

as

a

kid

when

you're

fast

forwarding

through.

You

know,

cheer

up,

Charlie.

You

watch

it

nowadays

as

a

parent

and

you're

like,

it

hits

you

a

little

different

as

a

parent.

But

banger

after

banger

of

songs.

I've

seen

it

also

as

a

stage

show

with

my

son

in

it

as

a

nice

little

cute

Oompa

Loompa.

It's

great.

So

I

think

you

guys

know

where

I'm

leaning

on

this

one?

Throwing

that

out

there

to

the

crowd.

Oh,

I

was

gonna

say.

Yeah,

I

was

gonna

say.

I

agree

with

you,

Steve.

Like,

Deer

Hunter

is,

like,

one

time,

and

if

you

watch

it

more

than

that,

you

might

be

like

the.

The

main

character.

American

Psycho.

I

mean,

I

don't,

like.

Like,

it's

so

dark

and

it's

so,

like.

Yeah,

it's

the

whole

time

you're

just

like,

holy.

How

does

this

end?

Because

I.

I

can't

look

anymore

at

this

insanity

that's

going

on.

And

then

on

the

other

side,

it's

like,

well,

there's

a

lot

of

insanity

going

on

here.

And,

you

know,

it's

colors

and

it's

an

acid

trip

the

whole

time.

And,

like,

the

songs

are

amazing,

and

Gene

Wilder

is

just

great.

And

the

scene

when

they're

in

the.

They're

like

in

the

river

and

he

starts,

like,

in

the

tunnel,

he's

just.

Yeah,

he

just

starts,

like,

flipping

out

and,

like,

really

getting,

like,

intense

and,

like,

voice

gets

higher

and

higher

and

all

just

freaked

out,

and

you're

just

like,

holy,

what's

gonna

happen?

This

guy's

nuts.

And.

And

then

you're

like,

oh,

they

get

there,

and

then

you

start

breaking

walls

and

you're

like,

what

the

is

going

on?

I

don't

know.

I.

I

mean,

I

love

that

movie

as

a

kid,

and

I

think

that's

like,

the

first

time

I

ever

saw

Gene

Wilder.

And

then

because

of

that,

and

then

his

kid

goes

and

makes,

you

know,

great

dishes

on

the

bear

now.

And

so

it's

just

a

great

thing.

It's

obviously

joke,

because

that's

really

nice.

Kid.

Oh.

So

I

was

gonna

say,

I

said,

did

you

know

I

was

kid?

No.

He

looks

just

like

him.

Jerry

Allen

White.

He

looks

just

like

Gene

Wilder.

It's

wild.

So

fun

fact

about

Willy

Wonka.

Do

you

guys

know

who

produced

that

company

or

produced

that

movie?

Hershey.

No.

No.

Mel

Brooks.

Mars?

No.

Who

was

ever

selling

the

bars,

I

would

assume,

right?

Yeah.

But

no,

it

was

the

Quaker

Oats

Company.

Quaker

Oats

produced

Willy

Wonka,

the

Chocolate

Factor.

They

did?

Yes.

I

never

would

have

guessed

that.

I

don't

even

know

how

to,

like.

It

puts

in

a

whole

new

light

right

now

because

I

was

just

thinking

about

the

lyrics

to

all

the.

To

all

the

words.

I'm

like,

when

you're

a

kid

listening

to

it

and

then

listen

to

the

lyrics

again

as

an

adult,

I'm

like,

man,

these

little

Oompa

looping

some

right

here.

So

that's.

That's

kind

of

crazy.

That's

all

right.

That's

all

right.

Life

lessons

throughout.

You

know,

I

have

siblings

that

are

10

and

12

years

older

than

me,

and

this

movie

was

old

for

them.

But

when

I

was

first

introduced,

I

will

tell

you,

it

scared

the.

Out

of

me,

and

I've

hated

every

rendition

of

it.

I

even

went

to

my

nephew's

performance

and

I.

Car

battery

died

in

the

parking

lot,

and

I

was

stuck

there

for

three

hours.

So

I

will

not

be

voting

for

Willy

Wonka

now.

The

Deer

Hunter.

There's

some

good

performances

there.

Christopher

Walken

Streep.

It

is.

It's

very

slow

as

far.

You

know,

if

you're

talking

about

a

Vietnam

movie,

it's.

It

is

very

slow.

But

I

think

it

touches

on

a

lot

of

the

bad,

you

know,

personifications

of

Vietnam

guys.

And,

you

know,

not

many

movies,

you

know,

you

could

probably

think

of

a

handful

that

really

touch

deep

on

what

actually

happened

and

what

they

went

through,

but

it

is

slow.

I

mean,

it

takes

you

a