2024 FFPC Genesis League Champion John Terry

May 15, 2025

2024 FFPC Genesis League Champion John Terry

The High Stakes Fantasy Football Hour

In this episode of the High Stakes Fantasy Football Hour, hosts Eric Balkman and Ferrell Elliott invite John Terry, the 2024 FFPC Genesis League Champion, to discuss his draft strategy and insights into various NFL players and fantasy football trends. They delve into potential breakout players like Caleb Johnson of the Steelers, Jaden Blue of the Cowboys, and discuss the potential of rookies and veteran players across different teams.

The hosts and John Terry explore specific players and their fantasy prospects, including Derrick Henry's contract extension with the Ravens, Jameson Williams' potential in Detroit, Josh Jacobs' role with the Packers, and the impact of new offensive coordinators and team dynamics. They analyze players like Chris Olave, Ted McMillan, Rashee Rice, and Trey McBride, discussing their draft value and potential performance in the upcoming season.

Beyond player analysis, the conversation touches on broader fantasy football strategies, such as avoiding injury-prone players, identifying value picks in later rounds, and considering factors like team dynamics, offensive schemes, and player potential. John Terry shares his perspectives on drafting, highlighting players he's avoiding (like Brandon Aiyuk) and those he's targeting, while providing insights into his successful draft approach.

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Episode Notes

Eric Balkman and the Kentucky Fantasy Football State Championship (KFFSC)'s Ferrell Elliott hash it out with 2024 FFPC Genesis league-winner John Terry about how his Genesis draft turned out this year. The players also make sure you know how to get an advantage in the 2025 Big Gorilla Tournament, the 2025 FFPC Main Event and the 2025 FFPC Best Ball Tournament and 2025 FFPC Superflex Best Ball Tournament, too.

The guys also discuss how to build rosters properly on 2025 FFPC Dynasty Leagues, 2025 FFPC Empire Dynasty Leagues and 2025 FFPC Dynasty Start-Up leagues. The fellas will also take a look ahead to 2025 FFPC Terminator and 2025 FFPC Super Bracket drafts and answer your X posts, emails and more all on The High Stakes Fantasy Football Hour!

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  1. Derrick Henry signed a 2-year, $30 million contract extension with the Ravens, and at age 31, he remains a valuable fantasy football asset, currently drafted around RB7

  2. Rookie running backs like Caleb Johnson (Steelers) and Taj Brooks (Bengals) could provide significant draft value later in fantasy drafts, potentially emerging as key contributors

  3. John Terry, the 2024 FFPC Genesis League champion, believes Trey McBride and Rashee Rice are undervalued in current drafts and are players he's targeting aggressively

  4. The Rams' acquisition of Davante Adams and his potential connection with Matthew Stafford makes him an intriguing mid-round wide receiver draft pick

  5. Caleb Williams enters the 2024 season with improved offensive infrastructure in Chicago, including new head coach Ben Johnson, making him an interesting quarterback prospect

  6. Some NFL teams like the 49ers, Giants, Patriots, and Panthers will have challenging fantasy playoff schedules, potentially impacting player draft value

  7. Brandon Aiyuk is a player John Terry is avoiding entirely in drafts due to concerns about his injury recovery and consistent performance

  8. The FFPC's Genesis and Big Gorilla leagues continue to be prominent high-stakes fantasy football competitions with significant prize pools

  1. "I mean, if you look at his stats, no one is questioning Bowers this year. I haven't seen anyone that's like down on Bowers at all. And I mean if you like the touchdowns kind of come and go. If you added three touchdowns to McBride last year, he's the same as Bowers."  - John Terry

    - Provides a nuanced perspective on comparing two top tight ends, suggesting Trey McBride is undervalued compared to Michael Bowers

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  2. "He'll be good until he decides to hang up his helmet and his shoes."  - Ferrell Elliott

    - A definitive statement about Derrick Henry's continued effectiveness, showing confidence in his ability to perform at a high level

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  3. "I think the real question in my mind is just whether Caleb Williams can speed up his processing. I know a lot of people gave him props last year for having so few interceptions, but it's only because he held the ball so long that he took a million sacks."  - John Terry

    - Offers a critical analysis of Caleb Williams' rookie performance, highlighting a key area for improvement

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  4. "The only early season comments I usually pay attention to are if they say something negative."  - John Terry

    - Provides insight into how a seasoned fantasy football player evaluates coach and player statements

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  5. "He passed the eye test on the field. He looked like a decent player. I mean he was definitely a hell of a lot better than Chubb last year."  - John Terry

    - Offers a candid assessment of a player's performance, comparing him favorably to a well-known running back

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Chapter 1: Draft Expert John Terry Takes the Hot Seat

Eric Balkman and Ferrell Elliott welcome John Terry, the 2024 FFPC Genesis League champion, to discuss his draft strategy and insights into various NFL players and fantasy football trends. The conversation begins with an exploration of players like Jameson Williams, Jaden Blue, and the potential impact of new offensive coordinators and team dynamics.

  • John Terry is a highly successful fantasy football player with multiple league championships
  • The episode focuses on in-depth analysis of draft strategies and player potential for the upcoming season

Key Quotes

  1. "He's just won too many league championships in the FFPC. I'm not gonna bother with it." by Eric Balkman

    - Highlights John Terry's exceptional success in fantasy football leagues

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  2. "I mean, if you add three touchdowns to McBride last year, he's the same as Bowers." by John Terry

    - Provides a nuanced perspective on comparing tight end performance

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Chapter 2: Running Back Landscape and Rookie Prospects

The hosts and John Terry discuss emerging running back talents, including Caleb Johnson, Jaden Blue, and Taj Brooks. They analyze potential breakout candidates, team dynamics, and the challenges rookies face in establishing themselves in the NFL.

  • Rookie running backs offer significant value in later draft rounds
  • Team situations and offensive schemes play a crucial role in a running back's fantasy potential

Key Quotes

  1. "He's the most well-rounded of the backs and I mean he the Bengals other than if something happens to Chase Brad Brown I think he's going to be the number two" by John Terry

    - Provides specific insight into Taj Brooks' potential role and value

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  2. "We said that, you know, you can get genty very, very early in this draft for NFL teams, but there will be value throughout this draft at the running back position." by Ferrell Elliott

    - Highlights the depth of talent in the running back draft class

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Chapter 3: Wide Receiver Insights and Draft Strategies

The discussion delves into wide receivers like Chris Olave, Rashee Rice, Brandon Aiyuk, and Devonte Adams. John Terry shares his perspectives on player potential, team situations, and draft value, offering insights into which receivers might provide the best fantasy returns.

  • Veteran receivers can still provide significant fantasy value with the right team situation
  • Personal assessment of player potential goes beyond statistical analysis

Key Quotes

  1. "I think Rice will be the alpha in that offense. And if Kelsey, you know, he's another year older, he could slow down." by John Terry

    - Provides a forward-looking analysis of Rashee Rice's potential

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  2. "The one that disgusts me the most, that I just won't touch at all... There's no way you're gonna get me to draft Brandon Aiyuk this year." by John Terry

    - Demonstrates strong personal conviction about avoiding certain players

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Chapter 4: Draft Preparation and League Considerations

The hosts and John Terry discuss draft preparation strategies, including considerations about bye weeks, player injuries, and the importance of understanding team dynamics. They also touch on the upcoming FFPC events and the potential impact of schedule releases on draft strategies.

  • Successful fantasy drafting requires comprehensive research beyond basic player statistics
  • Playoff week availability can significantly impact a player's draft value

Key Quotes

  1. "I immediately looked and I see that San Francisco, the Giants, the Pats and the Panthers, all their players went down in value to me because you're not going to have any of them for the title game." by John Terry

    - Highlights the strategic importance of considering playoff weeks during drafting

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  2. "If I could look to Stafford on a bye week or injury, I'm going to have limited expectations, but at the same time, Niu and Adams, I feel a lot better about it." by Eric Balkman

    - Illustrates practical approach to quarterback selection

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That's

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can

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life,

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would

say

this

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close

to

a

guarantee

that,

that

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Henry

is

probably

going

to

finish

his

career

as

a

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ring.

Ferrell Elliott

Oh

yeah,

yeah,

yeah.

Eric Balkman

That,

that's,

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all

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there

now.

In

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last

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Darren

Armani,

the

godfather

of

the

pros

versus

Joe's

challenge.

Anytime

we

cite

FFPC

ADP

data,

it

is

from

his

website.

Strongly

encourage

you

to

get

a

subscription

to

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Mojo

if

you

play

in

the

FFPC.

Derrick

Henry

right

behind

Devon

HN

and

Christian

McCaffrey.

He's

going

right

ahead

of

Jonathan

Taylor

and

Bucky

irving,

running

back

seven

at

the

204

Farrell.

When

you

look

at

this

as

a

two

year

extension,

does

this

give

you

the

warm

fuzzies

enough

to

say,

hey,

maybe

he's

not

great

in

2026,

but

if

the

Ravens

are

giving

him

a

two

year

contract

right

now,

he

sure

as

heck

should

be

good

in

2025

and

you

could

feel

good

at

taking

him

at

the

204.

Ferrell Elliott

He'll

be

good

until

he

decides

to

hang

up

his

helmet

and

his

shoes.

This

player

knows

that

there's

two

themes

that

we

have

at

least

coming

from

me

on

the

show

and

I've

seen

the

beard

and

the

head

shaking

in

simultaneous

fashion

is

that

you

were

made.

Expedia Trip Planner

To

travel

the

world

and

the

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seas

and

countless

lakes

and

innumerable

rivers

and

one

perfect

pond.

Get

travel

ideas

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on

Expedia.

Ferrell Elliott

Made

to

travel

Derrick

Henry

is

a

must

draft

player

for

your

fantasy

football

team.

He

is.

And,

and

we've

had

commentary

especially

from

the

pros

which

you

know

we

love

arguing

with

the

pros

come

July,

especially

from

the

pros

about

he

can't

keep

going

well

yes

he

can.

The

main

reason

the

second

theme

that

we've

talked

about

is

what

all

players

are

doing

in

the

league

to

lengthen

their

careers.

And

Derrick

Henry

is

the

foremost

and

the

most

well

informed

athlete

about

nutrition

and

training

and

what

he

needs

to

do

and

he's

been

doing

it

for

a

long

time.

He's

31

years

old,

5.9

yards

of

carry

last

year

was

we

talked

about

also

the

fact

that

he

would

go

to

Baltimore

and

play

behind

an

offensive

line

that

is

one

of

the

better

ones

in

the

league

and

against

defenses

that

were

challenged

with

the

idea

of

Lamar

Jackson

being

a

running

quarterback

and

you

know,

just

they

didn't

use

it

often

but

they

have

a

311

pound

fullback

and

they

used

it

often

enough

and

to

to

run

in

front

of

Henry.

I

I

love

everything

about

this

and

I

don't

understand

when

I

looked

at

the

kffsc,

our

first

main

event

draft

of

the

year

I

I

do

understand

Bijan

Robinson.

I

mean

Bijan

Robinson

put

up

some

very

good

numbers

last

year

and

has

a

chance

to

catch

60

balls.

Barkley,

of

course

Gibbs

is

an

exciting

player

but

then

it

gets

then

the

other

players

that

went

in

front

of

him,

genteel

who

is

yet

to

do

anything

in

the

NFL

that

doesn't

trouble

me

but

he's

doing

it

for

a

team

that's

got

a

lot

of

holes

to

fill.

H.N.

mcCaffrey,

all

those

players

drafted

in

front

of

Henry.

Chuck

Root,

our

good

friend

Chuck

Root

in

the

KFFSC

waited

and

at

the

28

he

nabbed

Henry

and

maybe

is

on

his

way

to

a

championship.

So

I,

I

think

if

you're

playing

fantasy

football

and

you

can

get

Henry

on

your

roster,

do

it

sooner

rather

than

later.

It's

the

best

move

you

can

make.

Eric Balkman

I

think

the

other

thing

to

keep

in

mind

too,

the

most

significant

thing

that

the

Ravens

did

in

the

off

season

as

far

as

skill

position

players

go,

was

adding

DeAndre

Hopkins

at

wide

receiver.

That's

not

a

needle

mover

for

me.

And

they

did

nothing

in

the

draft

to

address

any

receivers,

running

backs,

tight

ends.

So

I'd

like

to

think

that

the

offense

will

be

very,

very

similar

to

what

it

was

last

year.

And

I

know

he

probably

won't

hit

1900

rushing

yards

again.

He

doesn't

have

to

at

the

time.

204.

He

could

definitely

pay

off

for

the

first

time.

I

may

be

taking

Derrick

Henry

in

a

lot

of

drafts,

Pharaoh,

because

I,

I

do

like

this

ADP

for

him

right

now.

Ferrell Elliott

I

do

too.

Eric Balkman

Speaking

of

AFC

north

bruising

running

backs,

let's

talk

Caleb

Johnson

here.

Mike

DeFebo,

who

covers

Pittsburgh

for

the

Athletic,

called

Caleb

Johnson

a

quote

schematic

fit

for

the

Steelers.

Now

that's

not

the

the

interesting

part

about

this.

He

was

a

third

round

pick

last

month.

He

was

listed

as

a

co

starter

on

the

depth

chart

alongside

Jalen

Warren.

This

is

like

old

school

meat

and

potatoes.

Mike

Tomlin,

I

mean

where

you

don't

hand

rookies

anything,

right?

They

got

to

work

for

it.

Even

if

they're

the

most

talented

player,

they

still

got

to

work

for

it.

He's

already

listed

as

co

starter,

co

star

with

Jalen

Warren

and

and

you

think

about

Arthur

Smith's

offense,

it's

run

first

and,

and

they're

going

to

use

both

these

running

backs.

Only

three

college

running

backs

last

year

had

more

zone

rushes

than

Johnson.

And

according

to

defebo,

his

goals

and

offseason

practices

for

Johnson

is

learn

the

playbook,

earn

the

coaching

staff's

trust,

hope

of

becoming

an

every

down

back

sooner

rather

than

later.

Now

pass

blocking

needs

work.

Jalen

Warren,

one

of

the

best

pass

blocking

running

backs

in

the

NFL.

Pharaoh.

But

the

lead

to

me

here

is

is

this

is

black

and

blue

football

where

rookies

have

to

earn

their

stripes

and

already

Caleb

Johnson

sitting

on

top

of

the

draft

on

top

of

the

depth

chart

for

for

the

Steelers.

And

it's

worth

mentioning

because

Caleb

Johnson's

mojo

right

now

608

as

running

back,

25

not

even

being

drafted

as

a

top

24

running

back.

This

is

juicy

to

me.

Ferrell Elliott

Not

drafted

like

a

cold

starter

but

you

know,

bulky.

I

mean

you

know

you're

carrying

the

wood

over

here.

I'm

calling

co

host.

But

you

see

who's

doing

all

the

work.

You

know,

it.

It.

Okay.

Caleb

Johnson.

I

love

this.

This

is

perfect.

May.

What

are

they

calling

the.

The

schematic

fit.

Eric Balkman

Yes.

Ferrell Elliott

Oh,

my

word.

You

know,

okay.

I

believe

when

you

draft

a

player

like

this,

you,

you.

He

would

be,

he

would

fit

everywhere

else

if

he's

gonna

fit

here.

We're

not

the

schematic.

Okay,

that's.

Maybe.

That's.

Maybe

I'm

looking

at

that

too

difficult.

Maybe

I.

Yeah,

I

probably

need

to

leave

that

alone.

But

what

did

we

say?

Balky?

We

said

that,

you

know,

you

can

get

genty

very,

very

early

in

this

draft

for

NFL

teams,

but

there

will

be

value

throughout

this

draft

at

the

running

back

position.

This

is

example

of

it.

They

could

be

very

big

things

for

this

player.

And

yeah,

he's

going

to

carry

the

rock

because

of

all

the

reasons

you

said

there's

no

reason

not

to

draft

this

player

at

value

right

now.

And

he'll

be

going

higher.

See

him

in

the

preseason,

do

some

things

too.

But

he'll.

He'll

be

going

higher

as

we

head

towards

Las

Vegas

and

the

Paris

Hotel

at

the

FFPC

main

event.

He'll

be

going

with.

With

all

the

Pittsburgh

Steeler

fans

that

we

have

here

in

Kentucky.

He's

likely

to

be

a

higher

draft

pick

here

than

perhaps

even

out

there.

Eric Balkman

Yeah,

I

think

there's

a,

there's

a

curve

right

where

these

rookies

start

off,

you

know,

hot

and

heavy

and

redraft

because

everybody's

got

rookie

fever

from

Dynasty

and

then

it

kind

of

slacks

off

again.

But

I

think

as

we

get

closer,

you

know,

especially

with,

with

the

Northern

Kentucky

and

then

obviously

the

Louisville

event

for

kffsc,

that's

when

these

guys

will

start

building

up

steam

again

as

potential

league

winners.

Is

Caleb

Johnson

a

potential

league

winner?

I'm

not

ready

to

put

that

moniker

on

him

yet,

but

I

certainly

wouldn't

rule

that

out

at

this

point

in

the

season.

Ferrell Elliott

Don't

draft

him

in

front

of

Henry.

Eric Balkman

No,

you,

you

know,

hey,

wise

words.

This

is

why

you

come

and

watch

this

show.

Ferrell Elliott

You're

going

to

introduce

our

host

or

our

guest

tonight.

But

yeah,

you

know,

I

got

to

tell

you,

when

you

talk

about

schematic

fit,

when

you

prepare

for

the

show

with

other

guests,

I'm.

I

tend

to

want

to

dig

into

some

of

the

questions

and

I

want

to

also

say

what

I'm

thinking.

What

do

you

think?

And,

and

have

a

give

and

take.

But

we've

got

a

guy

coming

in

tonight

that

I

would

be

more

like.

I

would

Try

to

be

a

surgeon

and

try

to

dissect

this

brain

of

fantasy

football

that

lives,

eats

and,

and

loves

fantasy

football

at

such

a

level

that

is,

is

beyond

even

our

most

passionate

players.

And

you're

going

to

introduce

him

later,

but

I

just,

maybe

he'll

talk

about,

you

know,

I've

talked

a

lot

about

Henry

and

I

just

made

some,

some

comments

that

were

largely

worthless

about

this

player.

But

there

will

be

more

in

depth

conversation

about

every

player

because

this

guy

pulls

no

punches.

Balky.

And

he

certainly

is,

is

not

shy

to

share

his

opinion.

Eric Balkman

Yeah.

And

that's

what's

so

great.

And,

and

without

further

ado,

I

think

we

bring

him

on

right

now.

Ferrell Elliott

You

want

to

bring

him

on

now?

Eric Balkman

I'm

bringing

them

right

now.

Ferrell Elliott

I

think

we

need

your

patented

introduction.

Eric Balkman

Well,

here,

here's,

here's

how

I'll

set

it

up

on

the,

on

the

road

of

his

high

stakes

lowdown.

Last

week

I

had

Josh

Siegel

on

and

there

are,

there

are

a

few

players

that

I've

had

on

these

shows

before.

Some

of

them

I

can,

I,

I'll

take

the

time

to

count

up

how

many

league

championships

they've

won

in

Dynasty,

Big

Gorilla,

Main

Event

or

whatever.

Josh

Siegel's

not

one

of

them

because

he's

just

won

too

many

of

them.

And

another

player

that

falls

into

that

category

that

I

would

never

sit

and

count

how

many

league

championships

this

guy's

won

in

the

FFPC

is,

is

tonight's

guest.

He's

just

won

too

many.

I'm

not

gonna

bother

with

it.

I

will

introduce

him

as

a

guy

who's

won

dozens.

And

I

said

maybe

even

hundreds.

I

don't

know

the

exact

number

of.

Ferrell Elliott

Because

you're

not

an

auditor.

You

don't

over.

Eric Balkman

No,

I'm

not.

I'm

not

an

auditor.

I'm

not,

I'm

not

a

math

guy.

But

I'll

bring

him

on

right

now

as

the

defending

champion

of

the

2024

FFPC

Genesis

League,

a

league

that.

You

saw

the

2025

edition

on

this

program

a

couple

weeks

ago

as

Farrell

and

I

covered

it

pick

by

pick.

And

we're

going

to,

we're

going

to

delve

into

this

guy's

draft

tonight.

Please

welcome

back

onto

these

airwaves

JT

AJ

himself.

It

is

Mr.

John

Terry.

John,

what

is

up

tonight?

Thanks

so

much

for

hanging

out.

Ferrell Elliott

Look

at

that.

John Terry

Hey,

how

you

guys

doing?

Hey,

Balky.

Hey,

frell.

Eric Balkman

We're

doing

good,

man.

We're

doing

good.

I

want

to.

Because,

because

I

got

long

winded

in

that

first

segment.

I

want

to

pitch

you

a

couple

of

the

stories

that,

that

we

were

going

to

talk

about

here

to

kick

things

off

and,

and

I'll

start

in

Detroit

in

the

Motor

City.

Tim

Twentyman,

who

covers

the

Lions,

John

said

that

John

Morton,

who's

the

new

OC

for

Detroit

taking

order

for

Ben

Johnson,

said

it's

going

to,

quote,

be

a

breakout

year

for

Jameson

Williams.

Morton

said

he

was

never

around

somebody

as

fast

as

Williams

and

then

he

corrected

himself

to

say,

well,

maybe

Jameer

Gibbs

because

he's

been

around

Jameer

Gibbs

so

far

this

season

as

well.

Jameson

Williams

last

year

I,

I

didn't

even

realize

this.

Just

crept

over

the

thousand

yard

level.

58

catches,

1001

receiving

yards

and

seven

touchdowns.

And,

and

I

think.

And,

and

I

don't

know

how

much

he

affects

Aman

Ross

St.

Brown.

Quite

frankly.

I'm

not

drafting

a

Monroe

St.

Brown

any

differently

based

on

this

quote,

but

I

think

based

on

this

dude

being

the

OC.

John,

the

fact

that

Jameson

Williams

is

wide

receiver

33

right

now

at

the

608,

he

becomes

more

intriguing

for

me.

How

much

stock

are

you

putting

into

what,

what

Jameson

Williams

offensive

coordinator

saying

about

it?

John Terry

Yeah,

I

mean

it's

definitely

a

good

sign.

But

I

guess

my

question

would

be

just

how

many

passing

yards

and

touchdowns

is

Detroit

going

to

have

and

if

there's

going

to

be

a

substantial

increase

in

his

production,

where's

it

coming

from?

Because

I

mean

you

got

a

Monroe

St.

Brown,

LaPorta

and

if

all

those

guys

are

healthy,

I

mean,

I

don't.

I

mean

there's

no

way

Jameson

Williams

is

going

to

be

like

100

catch

guy.

Like

that's.

Ferrell Elliott

Oh,

there

you

go.

There

we

go.

John Terry

But.

Right.

He

could

add

some

yards

and

touchdowns.

But

I,

I

think

it

depends.

I,

I

like

the

player.

I,

I

just

don't.

Expedia Trip Planner

You

were

made

to

travel

the

world

and

the

seven

seas

and

countless

lakes

and

innumerable

rivers

and

one

perfect

pond.

Get

travel

ideas

from

ChatGPT

on

Expedia.

Made

to

travel.

John Terry

I'm

not

gonna

read

too

much

into

that

early

season

comment

from

the

oc.

The,

the

only

early

season

comments

I

usually

pay

attention

to

are

if

they

say

something

negative.

Ferrell Elliott

Yeah,

that's

true.

They

don't

do

that

often.

But

you

know

guys,

it

might

be

an

offensive

coordinator's

idea

of

a

great

increase

of

volume.

Could

be

10

catches.

His

idea

could

be

completely

different.

Eric Balkman

Yeah.

Ferrell Elliott

From

what

we

consider

a

huge

increase

in.

In.

In

volume

because

that

might

one.

One

catch

every

other

game

might

mean

a

lot

to

him

as

he

scripts

his

plays.

Yeah.

Eric Balkman

John.

What

just

the

Detroit

offense

under

John

Morton.

No.

Ben

Johnson

there

in

general,

do

you

find

yourself

I,

I

guess

what's

your

level

of

concern?

Because

when

you

have

a

new

it's

still

the

same

head

coach,

it's

still

a

very

similar

offense.

The

personnel

is,

is,

is

very

similar.

But

what

do

you

think

the

Ben

Johnson

effect

is

going

to

be

on

the

Lions

offense

with

with

him

not

being

there

anymore?

John Terry

I

don't

think

there's

going

to

be

a

huge

impact

of

him

leaving

only

because

the,

the

system

is

there.

Everybody

knows

it.

I

mean

they're

not

going

to

try

to

change

something

that's

not

broken.

I,

I,

I

mean

it,

it'd

be

better

if,

if

Johnson

was

still

there,

but

it's

not

going

to

really

impact

how

I

view

their

players.

Ferrell Elliott

He

taught

him

the

way

and

he

moves

on

and

he

leaves

it

behind.

Eric Balkman

Yeah,

I,

I,

I,

I

have

a

little

bit

of

regret

in

one

of

my

dynasty

leagues

where

I

hemmed

and

hawed

over

two

players

and

at

I

think

it

was

in

the

third

round

and

the

player

that

I

didn't

choose,

I

think

I'm

having

whatever

the

opposite

of

buyers

remorse

is

because

I

didn't

buy

him.

So

I

can't

have

remorse.

So

non

buyer's

remorse.

I

don't

know.

Sad.

Yusuf,

who

covers

the

Cowboys

for

the

Athletic,

said

that

by

the

end

of

the

year

Jaden

Blue

is

going

to

be

the

Cowboys

number

one

guy

at

running

back.

And

this

is

the

guy

I

passed

up,

John.

He

thinks

Javante

Williams

is

going

to

be

the,

the

leading

guy

early

in

the

season,

but

he

thinks

Blue

is

going

to

end

up

getting

more

carries

and

leading

the

team

in

rushing.

We

have

seen

this

before,

more

so

with

rookie

receivers

than

I

think

rookie

running

backs.

But

it

has

happened

with

running

backs

as

well

where

it

takes

them

a

while

to

get

up

to

get

used

to

the

NFL,

get

used

to

the

speed,

get

used

to

the

competition

and

obviously

you

know,

the

grind

which,

which

is

going

to

be

a

little

bit

longer

than

what

they're

used

to

in

college.

When

you,

when

you

consider

the

case

for

Jaden

Blue

right

now

and

the

mojo

on

him

is

running

back

42

at

the

10

11.

John,

if,

if,

if

Yusuf

is

right

here

in

his

prediction

then

this

is

a

massive

bargain

for,

for,

for

Jaden

Blue

here.

But

I

think

the

fact

that

he

is

Falling

to

that

1011

turn

makes

me

think

that

FFPC

players

are

not

necessarily

buying

into

him.

How

do

you

feel

about

Blue

and

how

his

rookie

season

is

going

to

go

in

Big

D?

John Terry

Well,

I

mean

I

definitely

took

some

shares

of

him

in

my

dynasty

rookie

drafts,

but

I

think

you

just

have

to

be

careful

when

you

really

are

valuing

a

player

because

everybody

else

on

the

team

at

the

position

kind

of

stinks,

right?

So,

I

mean,

he

could

be.

I

mean,

how

excited

would

you

be

to

have

like

Rico

Dowdle

for

last

year?

Because

that's

probably

like

best

case

scenario,

right?

And

I

mean,

he

was

pretty

mediocre.

So

I,

I

don't

know.

I

mean,

he,

he's.

He's

the

only

one

in

that

backfield

that's

got

the

potential.

I

don't

see

Javonte

Williams

having

a

big

comeback.

And

I

don't

think

that.

I

think

everyone.

I

think

Miles

Sanders

is

probably

over

the

hill.

So

it's

potential.

I

mean,

it's

definitely

worth

drafting

him.

Where

he's

going

now.

Ferrell Elliott

I've

already

lost

my

bet.

I

had

the

under

on

I

don't

know,

at

like

half.

I

thought

you

might.

I

don't,

I

don't

know.

I

really

do

know.

You

know,

the,

the.

If

you.

A

lot

of

talk

today

as

the

schedule

was

announced,

a

lot

of

Talk

today

about

18

game

season

and,

you

know,

players

think

the

season

has

got

too

long

for

17

games.

And

you've

got

an

injured

running

back

at

Denver

that

he's

fought

off

a

lot

of

injuries

and

now

he's

coming

to

Dallas

and,

and

you

know,

he's

a

grinder

and

he's

tough

and

I

like

him.

He's

just

not

going

to

see

position

to

this

young

running

back.

And,

and

so

I

think

it's

an

interesting

article

to

make

a

statement

that,

you

know,

a

player

that's

been

a

little

injury

prone

could

be

worn

down

and

blue

would

be

the.

Blue

would

be

the

guy

at

the

end

of

the

year.

Yeah,

that's

not

the

hardest

and

farthest

fetched

thing

to

possibly

say,

but

Bulky,

can

you

work

on.

Can

you

work

on

your.

Your

Will

Ferrell

imitation

of

that's

My

Boy

Blue?

And

start.

Eric Balkman

I

blow.

I

blow

up

this

the.

Your

Everybody's

microphone

right

now.

John Terry

Yeah.

Ferrell Elliott

There

we

go.

This

is

very

good,

by

the

way.

Eric Balkman

I

can't.

I

can't

sing

the,

the

Kansas

song

though,

where

he

hits

that

high

note

when

he's.

When

he's

singing

Dust

in

the

Wind.

That

I

cannot

do.

That

I,

That

I

cannot

do.

And

by.

And.

And

if

I

did

that

Pharaoh,

if

I

tried,

there'd

be

dogs

going

crazy

right

now.

Ferrell Elliott

Oh,

Bulky,

you.

You

can

do

anything.

You're

the

most

talented

guy.

Are

you

kidding

me?

Eric Balkman

Yeah.

No,

no,

no,

no.

By

the

way,

Stephen

Gorgelos.

I.

I'm

Stephen.

I'm

probably

easy

for

you

to

say.

Yeah,

I

know

I'm

probably

mispronouncing

your

name.

But,

but

he's

our

T

shirt

guy

to

get

the

T

shirt

thing

going.

Pharaoh

and

he

said

Jaden

blue

for

travy

on

Henderson

in

Kentucky.

I'm

assuming

Travion

Henderson.

No,

I

would

not

be

doing

that.

I

would,

I

think

that

is,

that,

that

iron

is,

is

not

nearly

hot

enough

for,

for

that

to

happen

yet.

So

I

wanna,

I

wanna

move

on

to

your

gen

here,

John.

You

drafted

this

team

the

Friday

after

the

NFL

draft

was

completed.

I

have

the,

the

board

up

here.

I

think

I

do.

Yeah.

I

have,

I

have

the,

I

have

the

board

up

here.

I'm

gonna

throw

it

up

here

so

everybody

can

see

it.

Just

so

we're

all,

we're

all

on

the

same

page

when

I'm

talking

about

these,

when

I'm

talking

about

these

players.

But

you

were

picking

from

the,

let's

see

the

five

spot

here

and

obviously

Bowers,

A.J.

brown.

Okay.

Number

one

and

two.

Your

number

three

pick

is

the

one

I,

I

want

to

ask

about

right

now

in,

in

Josh

Jacobs.

So

Green

Bay

obviously

switched

to

a

power

running

team

last

year.

Whether

that

was

due

in

part

to

the

Jordan

Love

knee

injury

that

he

suffered

in

week

one,

maybe,

I

don't

know.

But

they

already

had

Josh

Jacobs

before

that.

Two

wide

oats

get

drafted

by

the

packers

in

the

first

three

rounds

this

year.

And

it's

so

much

to

the

point

like

Jaden

Reed

had

to

have

a

sit

down

with

Brian

Gud

to

find

out

what

his

role

is

actually

going

to

be

on

the

team

this

year.

The

packers

have

a

super

crowded

wide

receiver

room.

Are

you

worried

that

Green

Bay

could

flip

again

and

go

back

to

more

of

a

passing

attack

not

only

with,

with

Dobs

and

Reed

and

Wicks,

but

now

Matthew

golden

and,

and

Savion

Williams.

You

took

Josh

Jacobs

at

the

305

in

Genesis.

Clearly

this

is

not

a,

at

least

a

big

concern

for

you.

John Terry

Yeah,

no,

I,

I,

it's

not

really

a

concern

at

all.

I

mean

I,

I,

I

know

they

spread

the

ball

around

a

lot,

but

in

my

mind

Golden's

got

potential.

Right.

First

time

they've

taken

a

wide

receiver

in

round

one

there

and

he

could

be

good,

but

everybody

else

that

they

have

at

wide

receiver,

I

mean

they're,

what's

their

top

end.

They're,

they're

not

that

talented

of

players.

In

my

mind.

I,

I

don't

think

Watson's

going

to

play

a

lot.

I

mean

he's

probably

going

to

be

hurt.

Dos

is

pretty

mediocre.

Re

Reed

is

good,

but

he's

limited

in

what

he

can

do.

I,

I

Just

don't

see

any

reason

with

the

success

that

Jacobs

has

had

and

had

last

year,

why

they

would

go

away

from

that.

Eric Balkman

I

will

say

to

your

point

too,

John,

the,

the

packers,

yeah,

they

drafted

Golden.

Yeah,

they

drafted

Williams.

But

you

know

the

other

thing

they

did,

they

signed.

I

always

forget

his

name.

Aaron

Banks

from

San

Francisco.

The,

the

big,

the

big

guard.

He's

going

to

be

the

left

guard.

He's

going

to

be

the

guy

that

shifted

Elton

Jenkins

to

center.

As

long

as

Jenkins

shows

up,

we'll

see

on

that.

But

Banks

is

a

huge

guy.

He's

one

of

the

biggest

linemen

that,

that

the

packers

have

had

under

Brian

gud

and

Matt

LaFleur.

And

then

in

the

second

round,

they

take

another

guy

who's

so

big

and

Anthony

Belton

out

of

NC

State.

His

nickname's

Cadillac

or

his

name

not

Cadillac,

it's

Escalade

is

his

nickname.

And,

and,

and

so

to

me,

that's

like,

if

you

need

any

more

proof

that

the

packers

are,

are

still

going

to,

are

not

going

to

be

a

power

running

team

this

year,

that's

exhibits

A

and

B

to

me.

They're

still

going

to

want

to

pound

the

ball

as

much

as

they

can.

And,

and

I

can't

remember

who

said

it,

somebody

within

the

packers

organization

said

come

December,

big

doesn't

get

little.

So,

so

you

know

that

like

when,

when

the

money's

on

the

line

and

you're

trying

to

win

a

million

bucks

in

the

big

gorilla,

the

main

event,

you

could

put

a

lot

of

faith

into

Josh

Jacobs

here.

Ferrell Elliott

I

think

Bulky

summed

it

up

perfectly,

John,

don't

you?

John Terry

Yeah,

no,

I,

I

agree.

Ferrell Elliott

I

mean

then

that

I

love

it,

Bulky,

when

you're,

when

your

insider

Packer

information

sort

of

seeds

to

the

top

and

permeates

all

our

Green

Bay

conversation.

I

have,

I

have

one

of

the

most

ridiculous

questions

probably

to

ask

you,

but

you

know,

our

friend

Jasmine

Jade

checks

in

earlier.

I

spoke

with

her

today

and

told

her

that

we

had

one

of

the

most

wonderful

guests

ever

to

come

on

the

show.

And

she

says,

oh,

I'll

see

him

in

Kentucky

then.

And

I

said,

well,

there's

no

guarantee

of

that.

So

I

don't

want

to

get

too

far

deep

into

this.

People

have

come

up

to

me

and

said,

when's

John

Terry

getting

here?

This

has

happened

for,

for

the

last

couple

years.

And

you

know,

no

one

has

agency

or

permission

to

complain

about

the

John

Terry

in

Kentucky.

But

I

will

say

he

is

not

coming.

And

they

will

get

a

look

of

disgust

on

their

faces.

They'll

shake

their

head.

They'll

be

still,

they'll

be

sullen

and

sad

for

a

moment.

And,

you

know,

and

I

have

to

keep

a

good,

strong,

hard

face

in

that

kind

of

situation.

And

so,

you

know,

we

got

a

lot

of

people

down

here

that

are.

And

I

really

think,

John,

because

of

your

record

as

a

player,

you

know,

I.

I

think

they

kind

of

think

that

they

will

get

you

down

here

for

a

year

or

two

and

they

might

be

able

to

beat

you

because

this

is

their

home

turf.

And

so,

you

know,

I

think

you

need

to

invade

in

the

south

and

prove

to

them

that

John

Terry

is

a

champion

on

any

turf.

So

here

comes

my

question.

When

you

get

to

Kentucky,

where

you

must

start

three

wide

receivers,

when

you

get

to

Kentucky,

will

one

of

them

be

Ted

McMillan?

And

if

you

are

draft

you

drafted

even

in

like

the.

The

fifth

round

of

some

draft

or

something?

I.

I'm

curious

about

this.

Did

you

forget

who

his

quarterback

was?

That's.

That's

my

biggest

question.

John Terry

No,

and

I

mean,

I,

I

think

that

is

the.

The

biggest

question

with

him.

I

mean,

Bryce

Young

was

really

solid

at

the

end

of

last

year.

The

question

is,

is

he

gonna

keep

that

up

and

progress

from

there

or

is

he

gonna

revert

to

the

quarterback

we've

seen

him

be

in

the

past?

And

I'm.

I'm

willing

to

take

a

gamble

on.

On

Ted.

I.

And

I

know

that

seems.

It

might

seem

a

little

early.

I

think

that's

around

his

adp,

which

is

pretty

aggressive

right

now.

But

I

was

a

little

behind

the

ball

at

wide

receiver,

you

know,

starting

with

Bowers,

and

then

I

took

an

early

qb,

and

then

I

took

Jacobs,

so,

I

mean,

there

were

a

lot

of

receivers

that

went

right

before

him

that

I

would

have

rather

had,

but

I'm

not

afraid

to

draft

Ted.

Ferrell Elliott

Well,

you

don't

live

in

fear.

You.

You

don't

live.

Here's

a

question.

Who

is

Ted

going

to

catch

more

passes?

Then

the

quarterback

gets

set

because

the

quarterback

got

sacked

68

times

last

year.

Bulky.

Is

that

a

correct

number,

or

am

I

just

pulling

that

out

of

my

head?

Eric Balkman

You

might

be

pulling

it

out

of

thin

air,

but

maybe

you're

right

on

this.

Ferrell Elliott

Over

and

under.

On

the

receptions

of

68

for

10.

John Terry

Oh,

over.

Under

68.

That's

a

pretty

good

number.

Ferrell Elliott

68'S

a

good

number.

John Terry

Yeah,

I

mean,

I.

I

guess

I'll

take

the

over.

I

could

see

him

getting

the

low

70s.

Ferrell Elliott

Low

70s.

You

know,

I'm

going

to

tell

you

about

something

about

your

low

70s

in

the

fifth

round

here.

You

could

have

had

Pitman.

We

have.

Eric Balkman

I

have

to

have

some

production

or

a

bell.

I

Ring

every

time

we

bring

up

on

this

show,

but

we

got

to

do

something

like

that.

Oh,

God.

62

sacks

for

Bryce

Young

in

his

rook

in

his

rookie

year.

Pharaoh

last

year

only

sacked

29

times.

Ferrell Elliott

What's

wrong

with

me?

I

can't

read

the

stat

lines

anymore.

Eric Balkman

That's

okay.

Numbers

mean

nothing.

Ferrell Elliott

Yeah,

they

do.

Eric Balkman

So

I

want

to

bring

up

the,

the

draft

board

here

once

again.

Oh,

there

I

go.

So

if

we

look

at

this,

John

in

the.

At

the

608,

here

you

take

Chris

Olave.

This

was

the

round

after

you

to

Techman

Tech

McMillan.

This

is

from

the

five

spot

for

anybody's

following

along.

The

Saints

are

obviously

a

mess

at

quarterback.

It

got

more

messy

when

Derek

Carr

decided

to

announce

his

retirement.

Is

this

a

buying

opportunity

for

Chris

Olave?

Drafters

right

now,

knowing

that

it

can't

get

much

worse

at

quarterback,

whether

it's

going

to

be

Tyler

Shook,

whether

it's

going

to

be

Spencer

Rattler,

Jake.

What's

his

name?

Hayner,

Gaynor

Hayner.

Yeah,

it

can't

get

much

worse.

So

I,

I

would

think

that

Olave's

ADP

is

going

to

be

affected

by

that.

How

much

did

you.

And

I

know

you

just

explained

your

wide

receiver

situation

in

this

draft

as

well,

but

how

much

did

you

like

that

pick?

What

do

you

think

about

Olave

here

going

forward

knowing

that

quarterback

situation

is.

Is.

Is

no

bueno?

John Terry

Yeah,

well,

it's

not

good.

But

I

mean,

the,

the

rookie

that

they

drafted

at

QB

has

a

lot

of

experience

and

I,

I'd

be

shocked

if

he

is

as

bad

as

Spencer

Rattler

and

Derek

Carr's

not.

I

mean,

he's

not

what

he

once

was.

So

I

still

think

Olave

could

put

up

some

numbers.

Plus,

I

think

the

Saints

are

going

to

be

a

bad

team,

so

they're

probably

going

to

have

to

throw

the

ball

pretty

often.

It's

just

a

matter

if

Olave

keeps

the

concussions

under

control

and

doesn't

miss

time

because

I'm.

Because

of

them.

I,

I

think

he's

going

to

be

about

you

at

that

spot.

Ferrell Elliott

I

think

he's

going

to

be

more

than

a

value

guys.

And,

and

John,

just.

I,

I

will

quit

the

hardest

soft

sell

immediately.

But,

you

know,

it

is

important

to

tell

the

listeners

that

the

experience

he

received

was

in

Louisville,

the

same

place

you'll

be

having

your

experience

here

in

August.

But

a

lot

of

scouts,

the

scouting

process,

and

a

lot

of

people

that

I

really

trust

in

football

say

one

thing

about

Tyler.

He

can

make

all

the

passes.

And

wouldn't

you

love

to

have

a

rookie

quarterback

who

can

make

all

the

passes,

it's

got

a

little

experience,

it's

got

a

good

head

playing

in

a

dome,

targeting

the

number

one

receiver

on

that

team

who

then

they

don't

really

have

the

greatest

tight

end

presence.

So

I

see

Olave

and

the

running

back

getting

maybe

100

catches

each.

You

know,

almost

as

many

as

Pittman.

So

you

know,

so

we're

in

a

situation

there

where

I,

I

love

a,

love

a

for

this

team.

So

if

you

love

him

like

I

do,

you

probably

don't.

But

if,

if

you

love

him,

would,

would

this

be

a

player

in

in

dynasty

to

be

trying

to

acquire

a

trade

right

now?

Because

this

is

and

what

would

be

a

suitable,

what

would

be

a

suitable

way

to

go

about

that?

John Terry

I

haven't

really

looked

into

to

buying

him,

but

I

mean,

I

guess

it

would

depend

what

the

price

is.

I

mean

if

he

was.

Expedia Trip Planner

If

he.

John Terry

Was,

if

he,

if

he

was,

you

know,

fairly,

fairly

cheap,

I,

I

buy

him.

He

just

comes

with

extra

risk.

In

a

dynasty

perspective

just

because

of

the

concussions

and

because

of

the

long

term

situation.

Ferrell Elliott

A

lot

of

questions

long

term

situation.

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Made

to

travel

the

Chicago

Bears

backfield

is

is

a

real

humorous

commentary

there.

You

know,

in

your

so

when

you

draft

I

was

in

some

Dynasty

drafts,

I

told

Balky,

I,

I

confessed

to

Balky

last

week

that

I

just

said,

you

know

what,

he

looks

the

part.

I'm

gonna

just

draft

him.

I

didn't

have

time

to

do

the

research.

I

think

when

you

took

Roshan

Johnson

at

the

1705

after

first

drafting

DeAndre

Swift

at

the

705,

I,

I,

I'm

thinking

that

this

is

some

of

your

choreographed

genius.

Or

did

you

just

look

at

Roshan

Johnson

and

say

what

the

hell,

I'll

get

a

handcuff.

How

are

you

doing?

John Terry

Well,

I,

I

mean,

I

think

in

the

Ben

Johnson

offense,

I

mean

you're

gonna

want

the

running

backs,

right?

If

he

has

any

type

of

success

and

pulling

together

what

he

did

in

Detroit

and

I

mean

he

made,

you

know,

very

legitimate

starters

out

of

Gibbs

and

Montgomery

and

supported

two

backs

and

I

mean

I

think

he

can

do

the

same

thing

in

Chicago.

It's

just

the

backs

are

less

talented

and

there's

more

risk

associated

with

it

because

still

a

possibility

they

could

bring

someone

else

in.

Ferrell Elliott

So

the

answer

is

yes,

you

knew

that

and

you

were

looking

for

it.

John Terry

Yeah,

well,

I,

I

will

say

in

my,

in

my

dynasty

drafts,

I

also

drafted

a

fair

Amount

of

their

other

rookie

that

they

took

Late

Kyle

Manung

guy.

Yeah,

late.

Late

in

drafts.

Just

because

I,

I

want,

that's

a

situation

where

I

want

the

guy

that's

going

to

get

a

lot

of

the

work.

And

I

think

those,

like

the

rounds

that

I

took

those

guys

in,

it's

worth

the

risk,

right?

You're,

you're

not,

you're

definitely

not

overpaying.

I

don't

think

it's

worth.

Eric Balkman

I,

I

just

like

the

idea

of,

of,

you

know,

not

that

because

I'm

a

nun

guy.

You

didn't

lock

up

the

backfield,

but

I

mean,

you

got

the

two

big

pieces

of,

of

a

Ben

Johnson

offense.

Now.

Is

Ben

Johnson

going

to

be

a

really

good

head

coach?

Is

this

going

to

blow

up

in

their

face?

I

don't

know.

But

what's

it

going

to

cost

for

you

to

get

the

starting

running

back

on

this

team?

A

7th

round

pick

and

a

17th

round

pick?

I

think

that's

a

bet

worth

making

in,

in

early

May.

So

I,

I

liked

it.

I,

I,

I

thought

it

was,

I

thought

it

was

really

good.

And

by

the

way,

Pharrell,

I

have

added

choreographed

genius

to

my

list

of

fantasy

football

teams.

Ferrell Elliott

That's

a

good

team

name.

Eric Balkman

Yeah,

one

of,

one

of

them

is

going

to

be

that.

I

don't

know

which

one

is

going

to

happen

this

season.

Let's

keep

on

the

Bears

here,

John.

Ben

Johnson

now

coaching

Caleb

Williams.

How

bullish

are

you

on

Caleb

Williams

this

year?

I

think

I,

I

just

think

back.

A

lot

of

stuff

went

wrong.

Did

not

have

the

offensive

line,

offensive

line

definitely

improved

this

year.

You

add

Luther

Burden,

you

add

Colston

Loveland,

and

now

you

had

Ben

Johnson.

I

think

there's

a

lot

to

like

about

this

situation.

Do

you

see

it

the

same

way?

John Terry

Yeah,

I

mean,

to

be

honest,

like,

what

else

could

they

have

done

for

him

in

the

off

season?

I

mean,

is

there

any

other

moves

that

could

make

that

offense

potentially

any

better?

I

mean,

I,

I

don't

think

so.

I

think

they

improved

everywhere

that

they

needed

to

be.

So

I

think

the,

the

real

question

in

my

mind

is

just

whether

Caleb

Williams

can

speed

up

his

processing.

Like,

I

know,

I

know

a

lot

of

people,

you

know,

gave

him

props

last

year

for

having

so

few

interceptions,

but

it's

only

because

he

held

the

ball

so

long

that

he

took

a

million

sacks

and

wouldn't.

Ferrell Elliott

There's

my

68

sack

guy.

John Terry

So,

so

as,

as

long

as

he

picks

up

the

offense

and

he

can

go

through,

his

reaction

reads

quickly.

I

mean,

I

think

sky's

the

limit.

Eric Balkman

Farrell

just

looked

it

up.

Caleb

Williams

Last

year

was

sacked

exactly

68

times.

Ferrell Elliott

The

number.

Right.

Eric Balkman

Yeah.

Ferrell Elliott

You

know.

So

John,

you're

neutral

on

Caleb

Williams?

John Terry

No,

I

mean,

I,

I

like,

I

like

him

at

where

he's

getting

drafted.

I,

I

mean,

it

just

comes

with

some

risk.

Right.

So

he

can't

be

like,

you're

your

only

qb.

Ferrell Elliott

Well,

you

know,

in

early

October

or

even

mid

October,

I

GUESS

they

were

4

and

2

and

they

looked

like

they

were

going

the

right

direction.

And

then,

you

know,

wheels

fall

off

and

everything

went

to

hell.

Devo

Samuel

is

no

longer

49er

and

I

thought

I

would

never

see

that.

I,

I,

Debo

Samuel

playing

in

another

uniform,

that

to

me

that's

a

little

more

shocking

than

even

a

Austin

Eckler

playing

in

a

commander's

uniform.

What

is

he

going

to

have

a

year

that

reminds

us

that

of

who

Debo

Samuel

is,

You

know,

historically

drafted

in

the

third

round

and

usually

plays

above

his

draft

position

in

fantasy

ball.

Tell

us

what's

going

to

happen

down

the

road

from

you.

John Terry

Yeah,

I

mean,

I

like

Debo.

The

question

is

just

whether

again,

whether

age

is

catching

up

to

him

or

not.

I

mean,

it

kind

of

looked

like

it

might

be

last

year,

but

if

he,

if

he

can,

you

know,

if

he's

got

another

year

in

him,

he's

just

such

a,

a

diverse

player

that

you

can

use

so

many

different

ways

around

the

line

of

scrimmage.

And

I

think

with,

you

know,

Jaden

Daniels

there,

I

mean,

I

think

they

have

got

a

lot

of,

a

lot

of

potential

for

him

to

put

up

some,

some

decent

points.

Especially

like,

I

mean,

you

don't

have

to

take

him

in

the

third

round

anymore.

So

I

think

where

he's

going,

it,

it's

worth,

it's

worth

the

risk.

And

yeah,

I,

I,

I

was

shocked

to

see

him

get

moved

too.

I

mean,

he

and

KD

were

like

the,

seemed

to

be

the

core

of

that

Niners

team.

And

so

that

makes

me,

you

know,

wonder

a

little

bit

like

what,

what

were

the

Niners

saying

that

they

were

willing

to,

to

let

him

go.

But

I

mean,

I'll,

I'll

take

the

gamble

with

whatever

round

I

took

him

in.

It

might

have

been

the

eighth

round.

Eric Balkman

Yeah,

right.

In

this

Genesis

draft,

you

ended

up

grabbing

him.

Debo

Samuel,

that

was

the

eighth

round.

The,

the

eight,

whatever

it

would

be

808

and,

and

I

think

what's

interesting

about

that

is

to

kind

of

what

you

were

saying

already,

John,

this,

this

is

not

a

third

round

player

anymore,

but

he

could,

could

return

potentially.

The

ceiling

is

third

round

value,

right?

Debo

Samuel,

wide

receiver,

38.

Even

if

you

don't

like

Debo

Samuel.

I

think

you

have

to

start

taking

a

long

look

at

him.

When

you

get

to

that

middle

of

the

seventh

round,

when

you

get

to

be

where

John

Terry

was

the,

the

middle

of

the

eighth

round

and

you

know

Calvin

Ridley,

Jordan

Addison,

Juwan

Jennings,

those

are

your

options

there.

Debo

Samuel

looks

awfully,

awfully

shiny.

We'll

see

what

happens

there.

The

now

another

receiver

that

was

had

already

had

his

heyday

and

his

best

football

is

behind

him

but

we

don't

know

if

he

has

some

good

football

in

store.

Now

you

have

to

go

a

little

bit

further

down

the

draft

board

to

see

Cooper

cup

stage

after

Debo

Samuel.

But

Cooper

cup

is

a

going

at

the

907.

Cup

is

the

wide

receiver

45

right

now.

This

is

Matthew

Golden,

Brandon

Ayuk

territory.

Do

you

think

that

FFPC

players

are

letting

him

slip

too

far

in

drafts?

Oftentimes

we

see

these,

you

know,

one

of

these

aging

receivers

kind

of

defy

the

odds

and

then

come

out

of

nowhere

and

you

know,

churn

out

a

top

20

season

and

he's

wide

receiver

45

right

now.

John.

John Terry

Yeah,

I

think

in

the,

in

Genesis

I

think

I

took

him

at

10,

8

I

think

is

where

I

got

him.

And

yeah,

I

mean

I,

I,

he's

another

guy

that's

worth

the

risk.

Right?

I

mean

it

could

be

that

he's

done

but,

and

if

he

is

then

you

know

you

move

on

and

you

grab

someone

else.

But

he's

got

that

high

ceiling

still

so

he,

he's

worth

the

gamble.

Ferrell Elliott

Guys,

the

Seattle

Seahawks

paid

44

million

on

a

two

year

contract

for

this

player.

Yeah,

I

don't

think

he's

done.

I

think,

I

think

we

can

follow

that

money

and

we

can,

you

know

he

had

pass

physical

before

he

got

that

deal.

Eric Balkman

Right.

Ferrell Elliott

You

know

I

don't

think

we're

doing.

Eric Balkman

Just

real

quick

about

Cup.

Pharoh.

The

other

thing

to

keep

in

mind

to,

to,

to

your

point

really

is

what

did

the,

what

did

the

Seahawks

do

outside

of

signing

Cup?

They

traded

DK

Metcalf

to

the,

the

they

let

Tyler

Lockett

go

who's

now

with

the

Titans

and

then

in

the

draft.

I

know

there's

a

lot

of

pundits

out

there

that

were

saying

Seattle's

gonna

take

a

receiver

in

the

first

round

or,

or

on

day

two.

Especially

with

that

extra

second

round

pick

they

got

from

Pittsburgh.

They

didn't

take

a

receiver

until

the

fifth

round

and

then

they

took

another

one

in

the

seventh.

So

to

me

like,

and

I've

been

trying

to

tell

myself

a

Tory

Horton

story

in

Dynasty

Drafts.

Right.

That,

that

this

guy's

gonna

take

over

that

cup

is

dust.

And

and

it

the

2026

is

gonna

be

the

year

Tory

Horton.

But

at

the

same

time

I

think

we

have

to

understand

what

is

John

Schneider

doing

there.

He

is

basing

his

team

or

at

least

his

wide

receiver

room

around

two

guys.

Smith

and

Jigba

and

Cooper

cup

and

maybe

we

as

FFPC

as,

as

fantasy

football

drafters

should

be

taking

notice

of

that.

Ferrell Elliott

Yeah.

John Terry

Yeah.

My

only

question

about

that

is

like

you

probably

want

to

play

both

those

guys

in

the

slot

so

I

don't

know

exactly

how

that

passing

game's

gonna

look

but

again

I

still

think

he's

worth

the

risk.

Risk.

I

mean

you

got

to

take

JSN

and

what

like

round

early

round

three.

Ferrell Elliott

I

like

the

receiver

room.

Eric Balkman

Oh

yeah,

you're

right.

John

302

right

now

wide

receiver

13

for

Smith

and

Jigba.

Ferrell Elliott

I

like

that

receiver

room.

Bulky.

Where

did,

where

did

Tajay

Brooks

go

to

school?

Eric Balkman

Taj

Brooks

was

at

Texas

Tech.

John Terry

I

want

to

say

Texas

Tech.

Eric Balkman

It

was

Texas

Tech.

They

are

no

stranger

those

Red

Raiders

to

not

having

great

defenses

but

having

high

flying

offenses.

Ferrell Elliott

Yeah

they

do.

And

Devin

Neal

and

Rashard

Smith.

Who's

your

favorite

of

those

guys?

The,

the

who

do

you

like

on.

On

those

running

backs?

Because

I,

I

have

said

it

earlier

tonight

and

I've

been

beating

the

drum

for

this

that

Bucky

Irving

last

year

was

no

mistake

and

we're

going

to

find

multiple

birthday

Chucky

Irving's

in

this

deep

draft

the

fifth,

sixth,

seventh

round,

even

earlier

than

that.

But

definitely

in

those

rounds

there's

going

to

be

some

star

power

that

really

can

make

fantasy

football

difference.

Who

do

you

like

best

and

or

do

you

like

all

three

of

them

and

you

know,

educate

the

listeners

about

them.

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John Terry

I

mean

if

I,

if

I

had

to

pick

one

even

though

he's

going

the

latest

I

I

would

take

Taj

Brooks.

He.

He's

the

most

well

rounded

of

the

backs

and

I

mean

he

the

Bengals

other

than

if,

if

something

happens

to

Chase

Brad

Brown

I

think

he's

going

to

be

the

number

two

and

he.

One

of

the

things

that

he

had

positive

grades

on

coming

out

of

school

was

his

pass

protection.

So

I

mean

I

think

he

could

be

a

three

down

back.

I

mean

I

think

last

year

the,

the

interesting

stat

coming

up

for

the

college

running

backs

last

year

is

two

running

backs

last

Year

rushed

for

over

a

hundred

yards

in

every

game.

Ferrell Elliott

Yes.

John Terry

Played.

One

was

Ashton

Genti

and

the

other

one

was

Brooks.

Eric Balkman

Just

comparing

these

three

guys

here,

Devin

Neal,

I

think

his

athletic

profile

has

turned

me

off

so

much

and

I

know

that

he

could

be

the

guy

in

2026

because

Kendra

Miller

has

failed

to

stay

on

the

field

and

you

know,

Alvin

Camara,

I

don't

know

how

much

juice

is,

is

left

in

the

tank

there.

So

Neil

is

more

of

like

a

2026

play.

Hard

to

like

him

this

year.

And

then

Rashard

Smith,

I

mean

all

these

people

are

falling

all

over

themselves

for

Burchard

Smith.

It's

like

there's

still

Pacheco

there.

Right.

And

then

they

went

out

and

signed

up

the

guy

from

San

Francisco.

Elijah.

Elijah

Mitchell.

John Terry

Yeah.

Eric Balkman

Is

there

as

well.

I

so

but

Brooks,

to

your

point,

John,

if,

if

something

were

to

happen,

Chase

Brown,

they

do

have

Zach

Moss

there.

He's

coming

off

a

pretty

serious

injury

and

I

never

really

thought

Chase

Brown

was

going

to

be

able

to

be

a

bell

cow.

Perhaps

the

Bengals

maybe

don't

want

him

being

a

three

down

guy.

They

want

somebody

else

rotating

in.

And,

and

I

think

Brooks

is

that,

that

has

a

lot

of

possibilities

for

best

ball

and,

and

for

redraft

too.

That's

the

type

of

guy

you

stash

on

your

bench.

And,

and

if,

if

Chase

Brown

misses

like

it

might

only

be

like

a

three

or

four

week

span

but

all

of

a

sudden

Brooks

becomes

flexible

there

and

I

think

that's

what

makes

him

attractive.

John Terry

Yeah,

and

I

mean

those

other

guys

are

worth

taking,

you

know,

just

shots

on

late

and

you

can

drop

them

if

they

don't

turn

into

anything.

But

I

mean

with

Brooks,

I

mean

Brooks

versus

Neil

for

instance,

I

mean,

no.

What's,

what's

Neil's

upside?

I

mean

would

you

rather

have

the

back

from

the

Bengals

or

the

Saints?

Yeah,

I

mean

and,

and

then

my,

my,

my

biggest

problem

with,

with

Smith

is

that

he's

kind

of

the

opposite

in

Brooks

in

that

he's

starting

at

zero

in

pass

protection.

And

I

mean

how,

what's

it

going

to

take

for

them

to

put

him

out

there

with

Mahomes?

You

know,

I,

I

don't

know.

I

mean

he

may

get

playing

time,

he

may

not.

Eric Balkman

Email

here.

We're

going

to

keep

it

on

the

running

back

situation

in

the

AFC

north,

but

we'll

go

to

Cleveland

here.

Rich

in

Kearns,

Utah,

John

wants

to

know

are

FFPC

drafters

wrong

to

bury

Jerome

Ford

right

now?

The

Browns.

Thank

you

for

the

email.

Rich

in

Kearns,

Utah.

We

appreciate

it.

But

you,

you

look

at

The

Browns

in

the

draft.

Quinn,

Sean

Judkins

early

in

the

second

round.

And

then

they

double

down

and

they

take

Dylan

Sampson

out

of

Tennessee.

And

Jerome

Ford's

like,

I'm

still

on

this

team,

right?

Running

back

67

is

where

FFPC

players

are

taking

him

in

the

big

gorilla.

He

goes

at

the

1609.

Clearly

the

most

proven

running

back

there

right

now

is

Ford.

At

least

from

a

professional

standpoint.

John,

probably

another

guy

you're

just

taking

a

stab

on

late.

Is

the

juice

worth

the

squeezes?

Is

it

worth

taking

a

guy

like

him

knowing

that

this

is

a

young

man's

game?

And

the

Browns

invested

into

two

young

men

in

rookies

this

year

that

they

think

are

a

big

part

of

their

future.

John Terry

Yeah,

that.

I

mean

this

is

a

hard

one.

I

mean

he.

Ford

coming

in

this

year

was

one

of

my

most

owned

dynasty

running

backs.

And

to

say

I

was

less

than

thrilled

after

the

draft

is

understatement.

But

I,

I

mean

with

bringing

in

both

Judkins

and

Sampson.

I

mean

I

think

Ford's

going

to

play

early,

but

yeah,

I

mean

the

writings

in

the,

the

wall.

I,

I

mean

the.

Regardless

of

whether

we

think

he's

a

good

player,

Cleveland's

coaching

staff

obviously

disagrees.

Eric Balkman

You

know

and

the

other

thing

too

is.

And

then

the

schedule

came

out

tonight,

the

buys

don't

start

till

week

five.

And,

and

so

maybe

you

could

use

Ford

in,

in

September,

maybe

early

October.

But

then

once

you,

once

you

need

to

start

plugging

them

in

for

bye

week

guys,

that

could

be

like

Judkins

take.

Maybe

he

has

the

control

of

the

backfield

at

that

point.

So

that's

kind

of

like

what

are

we

supposed

to

do?

John Terry

Yeah,

it's

hard

to

see

his

role

because

I

mean

even

if

Judkins

is

like

the

early

down

guy

and

then,

and

then

Samson

comes

in

as

the

pass

catching

back.

I

mean

where,

where

exactly

does

Ford

play?

I

mean,

I

don't

know.

Ferrell Elliott

I

have

a

question.

Has

Ford

ever

won

you

anything

in

fantasy

football?

Eric Balkman

He

has

plugged

in

for

me

in

certain

weeks

where

I

was

happy

I

started

him.

I

don't

know

if

he's

ever

won

me

a

championship.

John Terry

Yeah,

yeah,

yeah.

Same

for

me.

But

again

like

did

we

even

draft

for.

He

was

probably

a

waiver

wired.

Yeah,

that

I,

I

picked

up.

So

it's

not

like

I

invested

a

ton

in

him.

But

I

mean

he

passes

the

eye

test

on

the

field.

He

looked

like

a

decent

player.

I

mean

he

was

definitely

a

hell

of

a

lot

better

than

Chubb

last

year.

Ferrell Elliott

You

know,

it's.

It's

just

like

one

of

your

Favorite

players

that

passed

the

eye

Test

and

scored

45

points

in

a

week.

For

me,

that

was,

you

know,

claypool.

You

know,

you're

a

big

claypool

guy

because

of

the

eye

test

and

the

fact

that

he

won

some

things

for

me,

you

know.

Eric Balkman

John,

another

email

here

for

you.

This

is

coming

from

Jay

in

Queens.

He

writes,

hi,

John,

Does

Zach

Erz

have

one

more

good

season

in

him?

Thank

you,

thank

you,

J

J

in

Queens

for

the

email.

We

appreciate

it.

Ertz.

Right

now,

John

in

the

ffpc

Big

gorilla.

His

ADP

is

sitting

at.

Why,

why

do

I

not

see

it

here?

Ferrell Elliott

It's

way

down

there.

Eric Balkman

Maybe

I

didn't

scroll

down

far

enough.

I

know

where

they're

taking

Zach

Ertz

right

now.

Tight

end,

22

at

the

12:11.

John Terry

Yeah,

I

was

gonna

say

somewhere

around

the

13th

round.

I

mean,

I,

I

did

big

gorilla

a

couple

nights

ago

and

I

lost

out

on

tight

end

almost

everywhere

and

I,

I

took

him

on

that

team,

I

think,

in

the

13th

round.

And

I

think

he's,

I

think

he's

got

another

year

in

him.

I

mean,

he's

kind

of

like

that

guy

that's

like,

I

don't

know,

a

Jason

Whitten

or,

or

somebody

like

that.

I

mean,

he

does,

at

his

age,

he

doesn't

have

to

be

a

great

athlete.

He

just

has

to

run

down

the

field,

find

open

spot

and

turn

around

and

catch

the

ball.

Ferrell Elliott

Right.

Kind

of.

Eric Balkman

What,

like

what

Travis

Keller?

John Terry

Yeah.

You

get

a

point

and

a

half

every

time.

Eric Balkman

Right?

John Terry

So,

I

mean,

I,

I

think

he's

worth

the

risk.

Ferrell Elliott

I

think

he's

fantastically

athletic

and

a

quarterback

that

needs

him.

And

oh,

how

I

wanted

to

interrupt

when

you

said

I

did

a

big

gorilla

by

saying

that's

what

she

said.

But

I

held

it.

Really

did

I.

I

held

Cap

when

you

need

him.

Eric Balkman

He

would

be

rolling

on

the

floor

right

now.

Ferrell Elliott

I

did

not

wanna,

I

didn't

want

to

do

that.

Eric Balkman

You

like

ertz

at

the

12:11,

John

better

than

his

real

life

teammate,

Ben

Senate

at

1712.

John Terry

Yeah,

I,

I

don't,

I

don't

see

so

not

playing

a

lot

this

year.

I

don't

know,

I

mean,

well,

there's.

Ferrell Elliott

A

cautionary

trail

of

everyone

that

says

the

rookie's

going

to

take

the

job

job

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Ferrell Elliott

You

remember

how

they

just,

just

gave

the

job.

Everyone

in

fantasy

football

is

just

giving

the

job

to

salon.

Eric Balkman

It's,

it's

not

unlike.

And

like,

I

know

you

guys

aren't

baseball

guys,

but

like,

when

you

play

fantasy

baseball,

it's

like,

how

many

times

did.

Did

do

people

pick

up

the

closer

in

waiting

off

the

waiver

wire?

Oh,

this

guy's

got

the

best

stuff.

He's,

he,

he's.

He's.

He

misses

bats.

And,

and

then

the,

the

old

crafty

veteran

who

just

seems

to

get

it

done,

it

just

continues

to

be

the

closer.

And

all

these

guys

that,

that

everybody

just

assumes

was

gonna

be

the

guy

never

becomes

the

guy.

The

list

is

long

for

that

and

the

list

is

long

for,

you

know,

rookies

that

just

were

expected

to

seize

the

job

and

they

never

did

or

they

haven't

yet.

Ferrell Elliott

John,

what's

Balky

talking

about?

Eric Balkman

I

know

it's.

I

shouldn't

have

brought

that

up.

I,

at

least

I

didn't

bring

up

a

basketball

or

a

hockey

referee.

Ferrell Elliott

Oh,

remember

when

I

said

it

would

be

a

slam

dunk,

I

would

hung

my

head

in

shame.

Eric Balkman

Well,

pick

your

head

up,

Pharrell,

because

we

have

to

ask

John

the

most

important

question.

Ferrell Elliott

This

is.

And,

And

I

don't.

Last

week's

guest,

the

gentleman

that

joined

us

last

week,

Baki

from

Arizona.

Eric Balkman

Yeah.

Scott

Brzicki.

Ferrell Elliott

Scott

was

on

fire.

You

know,

for

a

guy

that

doesn't

have

any

vows

in

his

name,

he's

a

well

rounded

player.

And

he,

he

answered

this

question

better

than

anybody.

But

I

thought

about

it.

I

said,

you

know

what?

It's

going

to

be

a

one

week

reign

because

this

is

the

greatest

question

for

John

Terry.

They

want

to

know

who

you

will

not

touch.

The

guy

you

were

looking

to

avoid

and

the

guy

you

must

have.

But

the

reasons

you

don't

like

players

are

so

well

rooted

in

disgust

of

their

actual

being

as

a

football

player.

And

I

am

so

forward

to

looking

at

the

guy

that

will

not

make

your

draft

sheets.

That's

the

one

I

want

to

hear

first.

Well,

I'll

take

them

in

any

order

you

want

to

give

them,

but

I'm

on

the

edge

of

my

seats.

John Terry

Well,

I

mean,

the

one

that

disgusts

me

the

most,

that

I

just

won't

touch

at

all.

And

I'll.

I'll

never

have

him

on

any

of

my

drafts.

There's

no

way

you're

gonna

get

me

to

draft

Brandon

Iyuk

this

year.

No

way.

Ferrell Elliott

I

mean,

good.

John Terry

He's

coming.

Ferrell Elliott

Were

you

expecting

that?

Eric Balkman

No,

I

was

not.

But

I'm

curious

to

hear

this.

John Terry

I

mean,

I

know

he's

going

in

like

the

ninth

round,

but

he's

coming

off

a

pretty

bad

injury.

You

know,

maybe.

Maybe

he's

Gonna

come

back

middle

of

the

year,

best

case

scenario.

And

I

think

he's

only

had

flashes

of

being

a

good

player.

I

don't

think

he

really

even

established

himself

before

the

injury

as

someone

that

was

really

good.

I

mean

he

had,

he

had

his

problems

getting

on

the

field

in

San

Francisco,

problems

with

the

coaching

staff,

and

then

he

flashed

for

a

while,

but

I

just

don't

think

he's

that

good.

Eric Balkman

The

other

thing

too,

and

I

brought

this

up

and

I

promise

it's

the

last

baseball

reference

of

the

night,

but

I

was

listening

to

a

fantasy

baseball

analyst

talk

about

this

a

few

years

ago

and

during

drafting

season

and

I

think

this

is

something

that

I've

done

in

all

my

fantasy

leagues.

I,

I

rarely

draft

players

that

are

already

hurt

coming

into

the

season

or

maybe

a

better

way

to,

to

put

it,

is

not

healthy

coming

into

the

season

because

I

know

my

guys

that

I

draft

who

are

healthy.

A

lot

of

them

are

going

to

get

hurt.

So

why

am

I

adding

on

these

injured

guys

at

the

start

of

the

season?

It

just

makes

it

a

lot

more

harder

to

manage.

John Terry

I

agree.

Especially

like

ffpc.

I

mean

it's

a,

it's

a

shorter

season.

Eric Balkman

It's

a

good

point.

Ferrell Elliott

You

know,

so

we

had,

we've

had

a

double

header

of

baseball

analogies.

Eric Balkman

Yeah,

there

you

go.

I

love

it.

I

love

it.

We

know,

we

know

you're

not

on

iuk,

John.

Is

there,

is

there

somebody

that,

that

you're

on

maybe

later

on

in

the

draft

a

guy

that

you've

really

been

targeting

when

we

get

to

the

double

digit

rounds?

John Terry

Well,

my

two,

the

two

guys

I

like

most

versus

ADP

are

early

guys.

I

think

the

guys

FFPC

that

are

going

later

than

they

should

are

Trey

McBride

and,

and

Rashi

Rice.

Eric Balkman

Okay.

John Terry

Those

are,

those

are

both

guys

I

want

to

have

on

as

many

teams

as

I

can.

I

know,

I

know

McBride's

probably

going

around

like

end

of

the

first

round,

but

I

think

he

should

be

going

like

sixth

or

seventh

in

the

first

round.

I

mean

if

you

look

at

his,

I

mean

no

one

is

questioning

Bowers

this

year.

I

haven't

seen

anyone

that's

like

down

on

Bowers

at

all.

And

I

mean

if

you

like

the,

the

touchdowns

kind

of

come

and

go.

Eric Balkman

Right.

John Terry

And

if

you

add,

added

three

touchdowns

to

McBride

last

year,

he's

the

same

as

Bowers.

Eric Balkman

Yeah.

John Terry

And

his

situation

hasn't

really

changed.

I

mean

I

don't

think

his

QB

is

any

worse

than

Bauer

situation.

I

mean

I,

I,

he

seems

to

be

his

favorite

target.

I

just

think

he,

he

should

be

going

about

the

same

place

that

Bowers

goes,

and

then

Rice.

I,

I

think

people

haven't

caught

up

to

the

one

that

he

is

very

likely

not

going

to

serve

any

kind

of

suspension

this

year,

given

the

status

of

his

legal

case

and

then.

Or

lack

of

legal

case,

I

should

say.

And

then

I

think

on

tape,

I,

I

don't

know

about

you

guys,

but

when

I

watched

Rice

play

when

he

was

healthy

and

he

was

playing

well

with

the

Chiefs,

and

then

when

I

watched

Worthy

last

year,

it's

pretty

clear

to

me

on

film

that

Rice

is

a

better

player

than

Worthy.

I

know

they're

different

and

I

think

Rice

will

be

the

alpha

in

that

offense.

And

if,

if

Kelsey,

you

know,

he's

another

year

older,

he

could

slow

down.

And

if

they

put

Worthy

more

into

the

role

that

he

should

be

playing

in,

I

mean,

I

think

Rice

should

be

going

late

second

round.

Eric Balkman

Yeah,

he's

going

right

now.

Rishi

Rice

is,

is

311

wide

receiver.

Seventeen.

I,

I

will

be

the

first

to

admit

I

was

really

impressed

and

I

was

wrong

about

Xavier

Worthy

last

year.

I

thought

he

did

some

things,

especially

down

the

stretch,

that

I

didn't

think

he

was

going

to

be

capable

of,

especially

as

a

rookie.

But

I

think

a

lot

of

that

was

out

of

necessity

because

you

had

Kelsey

slowing

down,

you

had

no

Rice.

Hopkins

was,

was

basically

dust

and,

and,

and

they

couldn't

really

get

a

whole

lot

going

with

the

running

game.

Surprisingly

too.

So,

so

I

think,

I

think

a

lot

of

that

stuff

with

Worthy,

they

just

had

to

have

somebody

this

year.

To

your

point,

I,

I

think

he's

going

to

be

more

that

traditional

field

flipper.

He's

going

to

get

his,

you

know,

as

far

as,

you

know,

stuff

over

the

middle

and

underneath

routes.

But

I

think

you're

going

to

see

a

lot

more

Rasheed

Rice.

And

I

think

from.

From

a

fantasy

standpoint,

I

think

you

want

to

have

more

Rice

than

Worthy

this

year

for

sure.

So

I'm,

I'm

with

you

on

that

as

well

and

I

will

share

on

the

McBride

tip.

And

Farrell,

I

don't

know

how

you

feel

about

this.

Wouldn't

surprise

me

at

all

as

we

get

deeper

into

drafting

season

that

Bowers

and

McBride

are

going

like,

you

know,

instead

of

Bowers

being

at

the.

The

105

and

McBride

going

at

the

112.

Could

see

McBride

up

at

the

107

in

the

106.

I'm

almost

positive

we're

going

to

see

that

in

some

of

the,

the

Varsities

and

the

high

societies

and

the

big

paybacks

out

at

Paris

and

in

Las

Vegas.

Just

if

you

put

those

guys

next

to

Each

other

and

you

look

at

the

stats

and

you

take

the

touchdowns

away,

you

look

at

it

like,

why

is

this

guy

going,

you

know,

2/3

of

a

round

later

he

shouldn't

be.

And

I

think

that's

what's

going

to

happen

as

we

get

closer,

I

think.

John Terry

Yeah,

yeah.

I

think

their

ceilings

higher

too

because

I

mean,

we're

talking

about

that

touchdown

differential.

But

I

mean

they

both

have

upside

to

pick

up

because

it

was

like

the

one

guy

had

four

touchdowns,

the

other

guy

had

one.

Eric Balkman

Yeah.

John Terry

And

they

still,

that

put

up

all

those

points

because

really

in

the

point

and

a

half

for

FFPC,

if

you

get

tight

ends

that

catch

over

100

balls,

I

mean

that's

worth

a

ton.

Ferrell Elliott

Bulky,

may

I

have

a

pop

up

question?

Question.

Eric Balkman

Just

real.

Yes,

you

can.

Just

real

quick,

just

real

quick.

Bowers

had

one

more

catch

than

McBride

last

year.

Yeah,

Bowers

had

50,

beg

your

pardon,

48

more

receiving

yards.

And

then

technically

he

only

had

three

more

touchdowns

because

McBride

did

get

that

weird

rushing

touchdown

in

week

15

or

whatever

it

was.

But,

but

yeah,

I

mean

they

are,

they're,

they're,

it's

like

the

Spider

man

meme

where,

where

they're

pointing

at

each

other.

That's

kind

of

how

it

is.

Feral

Elliott's

pop

up

question.

Ferrell Elliott

And,

and

I

could

be

wrong

because

I

don't

listen

to

as

much

content

as,

as

you

do

John

and

Bulky

as

you

produce,

but

I

think

the

thing

that

I'm

hearing

the

least

about

that's

most

intriguing

to

me

is

our

new,

is

our

new

receiver

Adams

at

the

Los

Angeles

Rams.

And

I

would

really

like

to

hear,

first

of

all,

I

would

like

your

opinion,

if

I'm

correct

on

that,

that

it

just

doesn't

seem

to

be

a

lot

of

commentary

about

it.

And

I

just,

I,

I'm

curious

what

John

sees

from

that.

John Terry

Yeah,

no,

I,

I

like

Adams.

I

think

he's

gonna,

I

think

he's

gonna

play

well

with

the

Rams.

I

like

Stafford,

I

like

the

offense

like

McVeigh

and

I

mean,

they've

always

had,

you

know,

condensed

targets,

so

I

think

it's

going

to

be

him

and

Puka

with

Kyron

running

the

ball

and

I

mean,

we'll

see

if

we

get

much

of

anything

out

of

the

tight

end.

I

don't

know,

you

know,

I,

I

don't

really

see

Ferguson

coming

out

of

the

gate

and

being

all,

all

that

maybe

towards

the

end

of

the

year.

But

you

know,

I,

I,

Adams

didn't

show

me

anything

last

year

for

me

to,

to

think

that

he's

done.

And

he

was

also

when

I

won

the

Genesis

League

Last

year

he,

he

was

on

my

team

and

he,

he

pretty

much

carried

me

last

couple

weeks

of

the

playoffs.

I,

I

really

like

Adams

this

year.

Ferrell Elliott

There

you

go.

And

you

know,

I

really

like

Tom

Smith.

It's

just

a

real

subtle

hint

there

to

you,

John.

Just

a

public

service

announcement

especially

for

you.

You

know,

our,

our

guys

are

counting

down

the

days,

John.

That's

all

I'm

saying.

John Terry

I

will

say

I'm,

I'm

working

on

it

as

I,

I,

I,

I

have

a,

I

have

a

home

league

that

I've

been

in

since

1991

that

always

drafts

that

Saturday

that

you

guys

are

in

Louisville.

It's

like

a

fixed

date

on

the

calendar

and

that's

always

the

weekend

that

we

draft.

Ferrell Elliott

But

we

have

a

private

room

that

will

allow

you

to

come

in

on

line.

We'll

get

you

set

up.

John Terry

I

did,

I

did

convince

BIP

lab

to

come

to

Vegas.

So

he's

going

to

be

co

owning

some

main

events

with

me.

So

if

he

makes

a

trip

down

to

Kentucky

this

year,

there's

a

chance.

Ferrell Elliott

That

I'll,

he

already,

he

already

owns

a

ticket.

Eric Balkman

I,

I

will

say

just

real

quick

about

the

Devonte

Adams

thing

where

he's

going

in,

in

drafts

right

now.

I

think

you

can

make

a

case.

I'm

not

saying

I

would

do

this.

I

think

you

can

make

a

case

for

him

over

McLaurin.

I,

I

definitely

think

that

there

are

people

taking

him

ahead

of

Tyreek

Hill.

Right.

John Terry

I

would

take

him

over

both

those

guys.

Eric Balkman

Okay.

And

then

I

would

take

him

over

Marvin

Harrison.

He's

already

going

ahead

of

DJ

Moore.

I'd

take

him

ahead

of

him

and

Mike

Evans

for

sure.

And

Xavier

Worthy,

obviously.

I

think

the

one

guy

he's

going

next

to

that

I

don't

think

I

would

take

him

over

is

the

guy

you

were

just

talking

about,

John,

in,

in

Rasheed

Rice.

I

think

that

I

would

take

him

over

Adams.

But

Adams

at

the

401

right

now

I

feel

real

warm,

toasty

and

cozy

with

him

as

my

second

or

third

receiver

there

for

sure.

Ferrell Elliott

And

Pearson

drops

down

about

the

Stafford

and

that's

a

good

point.

Too

bulky.

Eric Balkman

Yeah.

When

you

consider

that

Stafford

is

going

to

have

Nakua

and

to

me

a

massive

upgrade

on

Cooper

cup

last

year

in

Devonte

Adams.

And

and

to

your

point,

John,

I

think

Ferguson

Moore

comes

on

at

the

end

of

the

year.

But

yeah,

I,

I

think

Stafford

going

as

late

as

he

is,

that's

another

steal.

John Terry

I,

I

just

think

you

have

to

be

careful

with

Stafford.

I

mean

PUK

has

had

these

great

years.

Cup

said

these.

I

mean

how

many

games

Are

you

pointing

to

where

you

said

Stafford

put

up

great

stats?

I

mean,

it's

such

a

condensed

targets

there

that

like

Puka

gets

15

catches

for

180

yards

and,

and

Stafford

doesn't

even

get

to

300

yards.

You

know,

I,

I

don't

know.

Eric Balkman

There,

there

is

something

to

be

said

for

that.

However,

I

think

that's

baked

into

his

ADPs.

John Terry

Yeah,

yeah,

I

agree.

For

where

you're

getting

in.

Eric Balkman

Yeah,

yeah.

So,

so

I,

I

would

not

say

he

is

the

panacea

that

you

need

for

your

fantasy

football

team,

but

I

would

say

like

in

a

pinch,

if,

if

you

need.

I

mean,

I

think

about

some

of

my

quarterback

situations

the

last

couple

years

where

I'm

scrambling

for

like

a

warm

body,

the

waiver

wire.

If

I,

if

I

could

look

to

Stafford

on

a

bye

week

or,

or

injury.

Yeah,

I'm

going

to

have

limited

expectations,

but

at

the

same

time,

NU

and

Adams,

I

feel

a

lot

better

about

it.

John Terry

Yeah,

he's,

he's

just

one

of

those

guys

that's

a

much

better

NFL

quarterback

than

fantasy.

Eric Balkman

Fantasy

for

sure.

Absolutely.

At

least

now

back

in

the

day

on

those

bad

Lions

teams

when

he

was

chucking

the

ball

all

over

the

field,

man,

he

had

some

juicy

scores

back

then

for

fantasy,

you

know.

Ferrell Elliott

But

tonight

they

announced

the

schedule.

Do

you,

do

you

spend

much

time

reviewing

that

schedule

at

all?

John Terry

The

only

thing

that

I

looked

at

and

this,

this

kills

me

every

year

and

it,

this.

What

is

this?

Maybe

like

fourth

or

fifth

year

now?

But

no,

I,

I

mean,

I

play

a

lot

of

ffpc,

right.

And

I

play

a

lot

of

the

main

event

Big

Gorilla.

And

I

always

like,

look

at

the,

the

playoff

weeks

and

because

like,

in

order

to

make

money,

like,

it's

great

to

try

to

win

the

million

dollars,

right,

but

you

got

to

win

your

share

of

your

individual

leagues.

So

I

immediately

looked

and

I

see

that

San

Francisco,

the

Giants,

the

Pats

and

the

Panthers,

all

their

players

went

down

in

value

to

me

because

you're

not

going

to

have

any

of

them

for

the

title

game.

Eric Balkman

And,

but,

and

I

will

say

this

too,

like,

okay,

it

is

the

Panthers,

it

is

the

Patriots.

It

could

have

been

worse.

Like,

it

could

have

been

like

the,

the

Commanders

or

the

Bills

or

the

Lions

or

something

like

that.

John Terry

Yeah,

yeah,

it

could,

it

could

have

been

worse,

but

I

mean

it

could.

Ferrell Elliott

Have

been

six

teams.

John Terry

McCaffrey,

Kittle.

Eric Balkman

Yeah,

yeah,

it's

not

great.

It's

not

great

to

be

perfect

last.

John Terry

And

you

got

to

work

around

it,

but

it's

just

that

like

you're

drafting

some

of

your

teams

before

you

have

this

information.

Eric Balkman

Yeah,

Well,

I

know

like

a

lot

of

people

will

now

are

going

to

spend

today

tonight,

John,

going

back

on

all

their

best

ball

teams

and

see

like

where,

where

the

holes

are

for

their

bye

weeks

for

like

kickers

and

defense.

Like,

oh

God,

all

three

of

my

kickers

have

the

same

bye

week.

That's

always

fun

to

look

back

on

as

well.

It

is

always

fun

to

talk

to

you,

my

friend.

John

Terry,

the

2024

FFPC

Genesis

champion.

A

guy

who

has

won

more

fantasy

football

leagues

than

I

think

I've

even

entered.

As

far

as

his

FFPC

leagues

go.

We

will

hopefully

see

you

in

Kentucky.

We'll

see

you

in

Las

Vegas

at

Paris,

John.

And

keep

up

all

that

great

choreographed

genius

that

you

have

had

going

on

during

drafting

season,

my

friend.

John Terry

All

right,

good

talking

to

you

guys.

Ferrell Elliott

Absolutely.

Eric Balkman

You

got

it.

That's

John

Terry,

ladies

and

gentlemen,

2024

FFPC

Genesis

champ.

Will

he

defend

his

belt

in

2025?

That

remains

to

be

seen.

Feral.

I,

I

wanted

just

to

tell

Everybody,

once

again,

kffsc.com

is

where

to

go.

The

ten

thousand

dollar

best

ball

tournament

is

live.

You'll

want

to

sign

up

for,

for

those.

I'm

already

into

myself.

And

then

obviously

the

KFFSC

main

event.

I'm

in

a

slow

main

event

draft

right

now.

I'm

in

a

couple

of

draft

masters

as

well.

So

the,

the,

the

action

not

only

hot

and

heavy

at

the

FFPC,

but

kffsc.com

as

well.

Ferrell Elliott

Yeah,

we

welcome

everyone

to

come

give

it

a

shot.

Eric Balkman

Pharaoh,

I

will

talk

with

you

again.

Not

this

Friday,

but

next

Friday,

man.

Thanks

so

much

for

hanging

out

with

me

in

the

middle

of

the

week.

Ferrell Elliott

You're

welcome,

Balkan.

I'll

say

a,

a

brief

so

long

because

I'm

gonna

be,

I'm

gonna

miss

two

weeks

of

our

upcoming

shows.

So

I'll,

I,

I'm

gonna

be

awfully

sad

about

that.

Okay.

Miss

you

during

the

month

of

June.

Eric Balkman

All

right.

Ferrell Elliott

And

I'll

be

back

in

June.

Eric Balkman

Okay,

so

the

23rd

and

the

30th,

you

are

off,

but

you

will

return

after

that.

Ferrell Elliott

I

can't.

Yes.

And

it's

just

breaking

my

heart,

bro.

Eric Balkman

Yes,

I

know.

Well,

we,

we

will.

We'll

find

some

way

to

get

through

it.

We

will

talk

with

you

again

in

June.

Have

a

great

rest

of

the

week,

my

friend.

Ferrell Elliott

Thank

you,

sir.

Eric Balkman

That

is

Frell

Elliott,

the

definitive

commissioner

of

fantasy

football.

Tom

wants

to

know

Tom

Smith,

right

now

in

the

chat,

how

many

teams?

Week

14

by

4.

And

once

again,

nobody

on

week

13

buys.

But

there

are

four

teams

in

week

in

week

14.

And

I

believe

John

said

it

was

the

Niners,

the

Patriots,

the

Panthers

and

and

the

Giants

was

was

the

other

one.

So

they

those

would

be

the

teams

that

are

off

on

league

Championship

week

four

for

the

ffpc.

Like

I

said,

could

have

been

a

lot

worse.

I

want

to

thank

John,

Terry,

Farrell,

Elliott,

the

ffpc,

Rob

Bryson

of

course

each

and

every

one

of

you.

We

will

be

back

Friday.

Not

this

Friday

but

the

next

Friday

which

is

the

23rd

of

May.

Five

time

FFPC

dynasty

champ

Adam

Tontus

will

join

us.

I

know

I

said

he

was

going

to

be

on

tonight.

I

screwed

that

up.

Adam

is

going

to

join

us

on

the

23rd

so

that'll

be

a

lot

of

fun.

In

case

you

missed

last

Thursday

night's

Insider

Access

show

on

the

Better

Sports

Network,

Dave

Turpole

and

I

covered

the

hard

way

Big

Guerrilla

Draft.

We

had

player

interviews

featuring

a

be

bag

Batobo,

Darren

Armani,

Theo

Greminger,

Bradley

Staller.

They

all

stopped

by

to

talk

about

their

drafts

as

we

covered

it.

We

will

be

live

once

again

tomorrow

at

7

o'

clock

eastern

time

until

9.

Rotow's

Alan

CI

is

going

to

be

my

guest

co

host

tomorrow

evening.

That's

going

to

be

a

lot

of

fun

for

sure.

FFPC

Big

Gorilla,

FFPC

Main

Event,

FFPC

Best

Ball,

FFPC

Super

Flex,

Best

Ball

Tournaments

and

FFPC

Dynasty

Startups.

Check

them

out@myffpc.com

KFFSC.com

is

where

to

go

for

the

10k

best

ball

tournament

and

the

KFFSC

Main

Events.

If

you're

not

drafting

right

now,

I

don't

know

why

you're

watching

this.

Make

sure

you're

getting

out

there

putting

this

to

good

use.

Have

some

fun

drafting.

You

never

know

when

you

could

win

life

changing

money.

Remember

to

like

this

video.

Subscribe

to

the

channel,

comment

on

the

video,

share

it

with

your

friends,

share

with

your

enemies

and

get

notified

each

and

every

time

we

go

live,

which

will

be

tomorrow

on

FFPC

Insider

Access

with

myself

and

Rotowire's

Alan

Soslowski.

Your

weekend

kind

of

starts

now.

Foreign.

Podcast Announcer/Rob

This

has

been

another

episode

of

the

High

Stakes

Fantasy

Football

hour

presented

by

myffpc.com

it

was

broadcast

live

and

was

watched

around

the

world.

Balki

and

Farrell

will

be

back

next

week

with

more

analysis,

more

interviews

and

more

advice

from

guests

much

smarter

than

they

are.

Thanks

for

watching

and

we'll

talk

with

you

again

next

week.

Eric Balkman

One

other

thing

I

did

forget

to

mention,

I'm

not

on

it,

but

the

FFPC

Live

Draft

coverage

will

continue

this

coming

Tuesday

I

believe

at

9pm

Eastern

time.

Aiden

Lori,

Dave

Tripole

covering

a

live

FFPC

Big

Gorilla

draft.

And

if

you

want

to

sign

up

for

that

and

see

what

those

guys

have

to

say

live

on

YouTube

in

the

FFPC

socials,

I

do

believe

there

are

still

spots

available

for

that.

I'm

looking

it

up

right

now

just

to

confirm.

Yes,

live

on

YouTube,

there's

only

one

team

in

that

draft

and

it's

at

8pm

Eastern

time

on

Tuesday.

So

if

you

want

to

be

live

on

YouTube,

have

everybody

hear

what

they

think

of

your

draft.

Sign

up

now@myffpc.com

thanks

so

much

everybody

for

tuning

in

on

a

Wednesday

show.

And

I

will

talk

with

you

again

tomorrow

night

with

Alan

Soslowski.

Be

good.